Why are Americans defending the judge that had it 115-111?

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    #11
    Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
    That score is impossible to get.
    Most ringside observers had the fight 114-112 Fury, 114-112 Wilder, or 113-113. The majority of ringside scores were one of those three scores.

    So if someone had it one round different from that, 115-111 in either direction, in a subjective sport, it's hard to argue.

    When you're ringside, it's a totally different perspective on what's landing clean, what's doing damage, what's being slipped, how hard a blow is, etc.

    I personally had Wilder and Fury even after 4, Fury up 4 after 8, and the fight even after 12. But if someone gave Wilder 1 round during 5-8, it'd be hard for me to argue. If someone had Fury winning 1-4, or Wilder winning 1-4, it'd be hard for me to argue. There were a lot of rounds where Fury landed very little or was just throwing flashy combinations that primarily landed on Wilder's gloves.

    Wilder was the clear aggressor and doing more damage. Fury showed incredible defense, but didn't always throw back very much. He did out land Wilder by about a dozen punches over 12 rounds (1 more landed punch per round), but he got knocked down twice.

    I personally wouldn't score the fight 115-111 in either direction, but you never know what that judge was looking for.

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    • Robbie Barrett
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      #12
      Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
      Most ringside observers had the fight 114-112 Fury, 114-112 Wilder, or 113-113. The majority of ringside scores were one of those three scores.

      So if someone had it one round different from that, 115-111 in either direction, in a subjective sport, it's hard to argue.

      When you're ringside, it's a totally different perspective on what's landing clean, what's doing damage, what's being slipped, how hard a blow is, etc.

      I personally had Wilder and Fury even after 4, Fury up 4 after 8, and the fight even after 12. But if someone gave Wilder 1 round during 5-8, it'd be hard for me to argue. If someone had Fury winning 1-4, or Wilder winning 1-4, it'd be hard for me to argue. There were a lot of rounds where Fury landed very little or was just throwing flashy combinations that primarily landed on Wilder's gloves.

      Wilder was the clear aggressor and doing more damage. Fury showed incredible defense, but didn't always throw back very much. He did out land Wilder by about a dozen punches over 12 rounds (1 more landed punch per round), but he got knocked down twice.

      I personally wouldn't score the fight 115-111 in either direction, but you never know what that judge was looking for.
      Another ****** defending it.

      The same judge robbed Herrera against Garcia, 116-112 to Garcia. Another Haymon fighter that was given a robbery decision.

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      • BrometheusBob.
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        #13
        It doesn't seem to me that many people are defending it

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          #14
          Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
          That score is impossible to get. No way did Wilder win 7 ****ing rounds. But we have ******s like [MENTION]Ake Dawg[/MENTION] etc defending it and ridiculing Fury for making a complaint to the WBC. You guys are pathetic, you're so desperate for an HW champ you'll accept it by any means necessary. All your fighters and trainers are even saying Fury was robbed. Hang your heads in shame.
          I think fanboyism at a certain level is a mental illness

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            If you agree with that scorecard then no one should take you seriously, you must be a stan to agree with that score card. Wilder own trainer didn't agree with that scorecard. Ellie "Reporting" sechbac who Fury kicked out of his interview was the only person so far who agree with it. And thats because he was kicked out by Fury.

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              They aren't fans of the sport. Just people filled with bitterness and hatred who need to find some outlet. They aren't ******ed, they don't really think Wilder won that fight. It's a subconscious thing, they want to cause conflict on the internet. It gives them some sense of worth.

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                #17
                Imo , boxing is race driven and a certain race ego has been dented .


                Some have admitted fury won while others wanna pretend like fury didnt outbox wilder.


                Lets not front ,if roles were reversed, a certain race would say fury was a robot and lost ,that voxing is a 12 rd fight not just knocking a guy down twice who got up and out boxed you after getting up


                Fury won the fight and 95 percent of everyone who watched agrees

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                  Another ****** defending it.
                  I don't have to defend anything. I scored the fight 113-113, as did many others. Someone having a round or two different from the norm isn't a robbery. The UK fans feel Fury won 10 rounds, but that's not the score ringside observers had. Most had a draw or Fury winning by 2, with many having Wilder winning by 2.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                    Most ringside observers had the fight 114-112 Fury, 114-112 Wilder, or 113-113. The majority of ringside scores were one of those three scores.

                    So if someone had it one round different from that, 115-111 in either direction, in a subjective sport, it's hard to argue.

                    When you're ringside, it's a totally different perspective on what's landing clean, what's doing damage, what's being slipped, how hard a blow is, etc.

                    I personally had Wilder and Fury even after 4, Fury up 4 after 8, and the fight even after 12. But if someone gave Wilder 1 round during 5-8, it'd be hard for me to argue. If someone had Fury winning 1-4, or Wilder winning 1-4, it'd be hard for me to argue. There were a lot of rounds where Fury landed very little or was just throwing flashy combinations that primarily landed on Wilder's gloves.

                    Wilder was the clear aggressor and doing more damage. Fury showed incredible defense, but didn't always throw back very much. He did out land Wilder by about a dozen punches over 12 rounds (1 more landed punch per round), but he got knocked down twice.

                    I personally wouldn't score the fight 115-111 in either direction, but you never know what that judge was looking for.
                    i totally hear you

                    i think alot of these guys almost literally think the judges are watching on tv screens in some room somewhere lol...and think they are all watching it from the same exact angle

                    things seen by one judge might not be seen by another due to angle...and like u said...its alot different watching it on the floor than it is from a couch

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                      That score is impossible to get. No way did Wilder win 7 ****ing rounds. But we have ******s like [MENTION]Ake Dawg[/MENTION] etc defending it and ridiculing Fury for making a complaint to the WBC. You guys are pathetic, you're so desperate for an HW champ you'll accept it by any means necessary. All your fighters and trainers are even saying Fury was robbed. Hang your heads in shame.
                      Name 5 people right now that has defended that scorecard.

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