Comments Thread For: Nelson: Wilder's Bargaining Power With Joshua is Now Weaker

[Ake-Dawg]

You’re incorrect, you’d agree that wider is the biggest hw puncher I’m sure? So with that logic if fury can take his punches he’ll take anyone elses, but being as good as wilder is other other fighters won’t land as much as he did either on fury, so no fury does not look more beatable couple that with how long he’s been out, he’s a problem... wilder on the hand has shown how one demencial he is and how bad is technique is. Fury wins that fight anywhere else in the world and I’m American, because of the money backing wilder and who is from he was given a draw.. and I guarantee you Joshua licking his lips to fight wilder now, his promoter.. that’s another story...

Fury is still just as beatable as Wilder. He still has chin and output issues. The cards going his way Saturday wouldn't change that. He didn't "take" Wilders best shots, he just got up from two of them miraculously (as he himself acknowledged). The only surprise in this fight was that Fury got up in the 12th. He didn't show us anything new, just that he had regained his old form. Wilder could have touched him much more if he shortened and took some steam off his shots. While not as fast, Joshua could certainly touch Fury as he is much more of a boxer than Wilder.

Also, Joshua should feel no different than he felt before. If anything, he is relieved that Wilder didn't show any improvement from the Ortiz fight and remains just as much a danger to him as before. Joshua isn't Fury and styles make fights. Hearn and Joshua know that.

[Laligalaliga]

I notice a good number of people in this site disappear after the results of Fury vs Wilder and today and at the same time new accounts magically appear.

Well said.
WBC WBA IBF
5000boxing.

These guys are nowhere to be found. I hope they are alright.

[Scopedog]

What his bargaining power is right now in regards to the Joshua fight is irrelevant because that fight's not happening until after a rematch with Fury. This was a really exciting and memorable fight and the rematch is going to be huge regardless of how much of a financial success this first fight turns out to be. Assuming the rematch is anywhere near as good a fight as the first, whoever wins moves on to Joshua with enormous bargaining potential behind them. Honestly Joshua doesn't have a lot of career momentum right now and if he wants to be sure of maintaining his position as the top draw in the division he probably needs to get another big fight in before Wilder / Fury's challenge comes around following their rematch. I'm not sure if a rematch against Whyte is going to cut it.

[Brooklyn926]

That's the thing, what work one values most when there is little action can cause disparities in scoring.

I hear you I just find it hard to give rounds to wilder and I favor aggression, the way he was missing and so far off with the right hand with lack of punch selection made it hard for me to see him wining rounds

[LoadedWraps]

I notice a good number of people in this site disappear after the results of Fury vs Wilder and today and at the same time new accounts magically appear.

get 'em

[Brooklyn926]

Fury is still just as beatable as Wilder. He still has chin and output issues. The cards going his way Saturday wouldn't change that. He didn't "take" Wilders best shots, he just got up from two of them miraculously (as he himself acknowledged). The only surprise in this fight was that Fury got up in the 12th. He didn't show us anything new, just that he had regained his old form. Wilder could have touched him much more if he shortened and took some steam off his shots. While not as fast, Joshua could certainly touch Fury as he is much more of a boxer than Wilder.

Also, Joshua should feel no different than he felt before. If anything, he is relieved that Wilder didn't show any improvement from the Ortiz fight and remains just as much a danger to him as before. Joshua isn't Fury and styles make fights. Hearn and Joshua know that.

You make decent points but you use if when talking about wilder, and I don’t know your experience in boxing and this is a big thing with fury because he freezes murderers up, is that IF you throw more you will leave your self open to counter and fury has the skill to land and isn’t a step behind like Ortiz was. But we agree on the rematch, also keep in mind even with all the time off fury did with he does, I’ve been watching wilder since the Olympic and I’ve never seen him look like that

[Laligalaliga]

Wilder stock hurt? Not in the USA and Joshua is not even being mentioned everyone is wanting the Fury rematch. Joshua stock has took a hit after Wilder vs Fury but let's see what the ppv buys were.

I hope you are not that 5000boxing guy with an alternate account.
I can see you just created this account after the fight just to hide face.

You didn't need to do that bro. Man up.

[Eff Pandas]

Johnny Nelson: "Eddie's **** is huge..like twice the size of mine"

Sky is becoming the new HBO with trying so hard to control the narrative with all things boxing.

[Laligalaliga]

Now Also, Someone please ask Joshua if he wants that right hand. LOL.

The right hand was neutralized all through the match up. The left hook did the damage. You should advice wilder to do more of left hook instead of frequently throwing a right hand like an amateur.

[Ake-Dawg]

You make decent points but you use if when talking about wilder, and I don’t know your experience in boxing and this is a big thing with fury because he freezes murderers up, is that IF you throw more you will leave your self open to counter and fury has the skill to land and isn’t a step behind like Ortiz was. But we agree on the rematch, also keep in mind even with all the time off fury did with he does, I’ve been watching wilder since the Olympic and I’ve never seen him look like that

The key with Fury is to not try and murder him. You have to lull him to sleep, take his legs, and finish with short straight shots. Fury isn't going to beat himself by getting away from his gameplan. You have to force the mistake which Wilder did several times but failed to capitalize on due to his attempts to murder Fury rather than score.

Fury was smart in that he worked solely on being the best Fury. That started before the Seferi fight. Major props to him for that.