Ten Takes From Last Night

[Split Decision]

I think they know it was hard fought and realize the rematch is worth a crapload of money.

But, make no mistake, Wilder and his folks thought they won the fight- they thought the KD in the 12th sealed the deal in a close fight up to that point.

then why were they celebrating a draw ? lmao

[Curt Henning]

Thanks.

I am not asking for folks to agree with everything I post.

Just have takes solid enough to stand up to scrutiny.

Wilder fought Ortiz and Fury this year and still has his belt.

I doubt AJ would be able to say the same.

all i ever hear is "top 10 opponents"..."more top 10 opponents than anyone"...

aj wouldnt fight ortiz and fury in the same year...he wouldnt even fight ortiz...hes actively setting up a rematch against a guy he beat....

we used to hear the same crap about golovkin and all the top 10 guys hes faced..in a crap division...when he stepped up the comp level he was barely winning, drawing and losing

[_Rexy_]

all i ever hear is "top 10 opponents"..."more top 10 opponents than anyone"...

aj wouldnt fight ortiz and fury in the same year...he wouldnt even fight ortiz...hes actively setting up a rematch against a guy he beat....

we used to hear the same crap about golovkin and all the top 10 guys hes faced..in a crap division...when he stepped up the comp level he was barely winning, drawing and losing

He’s not rematching a guy he beat.


He’s rematching a guy he beat CONVINCINGLY and knocked out. At least Whyte/Chisora can be somewhat justified as a rematch because it was a BS decision. This is just a matchroom cherrypick that people are excited for for some reason.

At this point, AJ is just holding the belts. If one of Wilder or fury go to fight him, it’s just to make THEIR fight bigger, and for all of the belts. AJ is such a distant third it’s not funny. Fury/Joshua would look like a heavyweight Loma/Rigo

And GGG > AJ because at least you can say that G wanted to fight the best. He wanted a legacy, and he wanted to be Undesputed.

[Curt Henning]

He’s not rematching a guy he beat.


He’s rematching a guy he beat CONVINCINGLY and knocked out. At least Whyte/Chisora can be somewhat justified as a rematch because it was a BS decision. This is just a matchroom cherrypick that people are excited for for some reason.

At this point, AJ is just holding the belts. If one of Wilder or fury go to fight him, it’s just to make THEIR fight bigger, and for all of the belts. AJ is such a distant third it’s not funny. Fury/Joshua would look like a heavyweight Loma/Rigo

ya..i honestly cant believe people are defending AJ/whyte 2....just brainless shills who excuse anything and everything their guy does "well AJ is the a-side hes the most recognize hes the best hes blah blah so he can do anything he wants"...lol

[koolkc107]

then why were they celebrating a draw ? lmao

I think they were more savvy about what a draw meant than you are...

[koolkc107]

all i ever hear is "top 10 opponents"..."more top 10 opponents than anyone"...

aj wouldnt fight ortiz and fury in the same year...he wouldnt even fight ortiz...hes actively setting up a rematch against a guy he beat....

we used to hear the same crap about golovkin and all the top 10 guys hes faced..in a crap division...when he stepped up the comp level he was barely winning, drawing and losing

One guy fought snoozefests against Parker, a decent yet not great fighter, and Povetkin, a guy that got rocked by David price the fight before.

The other guy fought and clearly beat the whole division's boogeyman (a guy two supposedly top 5 heavys each ducked at least twice), and earned a draw against the lineal, who incidently looks as good as he has ever been.

I'd say all that crap about resumes just died a very lonely death...

[Curt Henning]

One guy fought snoozefests against Parker, a decent yet not great fighter, and Povetkin, a guy that got rocked by David price the fight before.

The other guy fought and clearly beat the whole division's boogeyman (a guy two supposedly top 5 heavys each ducked at least twice), and earned a draw against the lineal, who incidently looks as good as he has ever been.

I'd say all that crap about resumes just died a very lonely death...

it wont die though...these guys will continue to perpetuate it....

ortiz was the boogeyman till wilder fought and beat him...then he became old garbage.....when ortiz literally wins every second of every round against kauffman hes an old bum cause he couldnt put him away early enough....but were supposed to believe parker, who couldnt ko cojanu, is some decent fighter we should respect on AJs resume

[Tony Trick-Pony]

Great post and I agree on most, but Usyk in the Fighter of the Year. 3 current or former champions in their own backyards. Unified the title. I am very feel!

[Tony Trick-Pony]

ya..i honestly cant believe people are defending AJ/whyte 2....just brainless shills who excuse anything and everything their guy does "well AJ is the a-side hes the most recognize hes the best hes blah blah so he can do anything he wants"...lol

I agree.

I see no reason to think an AJ-Whyte rematch will be any different from the first fight. Pointless.

[koolkc107]

What do you make of Wilder and his team cheering a draw and Fury and his lot being disappointed with it?

Actually, that wasn't how it went down at all.

Fury thought he'd lost.

Peep the video...