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  • Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
    20 lbs. won't be hard to put on, and it'll help in close! Fury likes to grapple in close, and Wilder needs to make him pay! I don't know if Usyk can take a right hand from Wilder? He might want to start with Miller and work his way up from there! Do you think Joshua can beat Ortiz?
    I think Whyte and Joyce can beat Ortiz if that answers your question. Ortiz is old and slow and doesn’t hit hard enough to worry the top heavyweights......

    Usyk will avoid Wilder’s left hand like the plague. He is more of a polished boxer than Fury and has a much better offensive although admittedly easier to hit than Fury

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    • Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
      Luis Ortiz didn't need a resume, he was already a stud amateur, much like Rigo and Loma! People who were scared to fight him always said "he needs to prove himself." Purists already knew he was a problem! That's why Hearn kept him from Joshua! Joshua has yet to face one of the Big 3!
      Lol the big 3

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      • He’s a chicken and a duck

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        • Real recognizes real and AJ is looking really unfamiliar right now

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          • Originally posted by peplz View Post
            It's so strange how the media loves false narratives so much. There's not a single sensible person who pays attention that doesn't see that neither one of these guys wants to fight Joshua
            Exactly. I have absolutely no doubts that AJ ko's either guy should he be granted the opportunity to face them.

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            • Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
              Luis Ortiz didn't need a resume, he was already a stud amateur, much like Rigo and Loma! People who were scared to fight him always said "he needs to prove himself." Purists already knew he was a problem! That's why Hearn kept him from Joshua! Joshua has yet to face one of the Big 3!
              Have you looked at what actually happened in Luis Ortiz amateur career?

              My bet is you wouldn't be comparing to the other guys if you did. Ortiz wasn't even the best in Cuba 4 times out of 5. No point in mentioning any higher level.

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              • Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
                Immediate rematch please! Let Joshua go fight his MatchRoom buddies, while the 2 best HW fight it out one more time...in the UK!
                Originally posted by JWHardin View Post
                I was hoping for a clear-cut winner via KO but props to both guys for their efforts. Guess we will see it again. The winner of the next fight will demand 50-50 vs Joshua, and rightfully so. Not a good look for Joshua not being ringside.

                Hopefully AJ fights Ortiz or even Miller next. Don't want to see Whyte or Chisora.
                Originally posted by Shadoww702 View Post
                Joshua stock just went down. He fights bums while these two do a rematch
                Originally posted by Butch.McRae View Post
                Are we all assuming that AJ doesn't want to come out and play now?

                Surely, he doesn't want to sit around and listen to Fury/Wilder talk for almost a year?

                We might have to wait on Fury v. Wilder II. Let's see what happens.
                Originally posted by _Rexy_ View Post
                I'm sure that AJ's camp will talk loud and say they want to sit down and negotiate during the Wilder/Fury II buildup. But he'll fight Whyte and Pulev while doing that.
                Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
                Joshua should've stepped up, and he didn't! Fury did, and did a wonderful job, but he got dropped twice, a got a bad decision! I want the rematch! Let Joshua show his bravery and fight Ortiz, who he should've fought years ago, and let Wilder and Fury settle their unfinished business...in the UK!
                Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
                Joshua could change my opinion of him if he fought Luis "King Kong" Ortiz! Wilder has faced the 2 best HWs in the game! No shame in his game! He lost that fight, but the 2 KDs make me want to see the rematch ASAP!
                Originally posted by thack View Post
                Lets be real here .The only thing Wilder did was drop Fury twice ,other than that it was a shutout .Fury would definitely do him in a rematch now he is match fit. Joshua is out of the picture with his idiot of a promoter and his ridiculous demands.
                I really hope they shut Joshua out as he could have had that fight for $50 m ...min. but wanker Hearn couldn't stand the fact he couldn't run the show.....what a twat...and AJ. who we used to support ....no balls! ....asleep in bed ...lol... not for me mate!
                Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
                Wilder gave Fury a shot at the title. so now we should see the rematch in the UK! Joshua gave Wilder a flat-fee offer and swerves the fight, even turned down a $50 million dollar offer! He didn't even think Fury was a worthy opponent even though Fury was the lineal champion! Joshua didn't fight Ortiz, even when he was at MatchRoom! I bet he regrets not facing the best of the best, now let him prove himself by fighting Ortiz! Wilder and Fury have unfinished business!
                LOL, just look at the clamoring for the rematch already. Any wonder why Wilder and Fury were so happy after the act they put on last night. Playing people like fiddles.

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                • Originally posted by mathed View Post
                  Exactly. I have absolutely no doubts that AJ ko's either guy should he be granted the opportunity to face them.
                  Before last night I thought AJ was top man. That was on an assumption of Fury never quite being the same.

                  But boxing is about how you're remembered. It doesn't matter whether he can beat them if he never gets the biggest fights of the era.

                  Joshua is about to announce his opponent for April. It will be underwhelming - unless it's one of the two from last night it will disappoint.

                  So where to now? Before last night everyone needed AJ. He didn't need them. I think this fight changed things. If he's on the outer for 2019 that's a big loss for him. Will Wilder still be fighting in 2020? A trilogy with Tyson might define his career and see him retire.

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                  • Originally posted by Toffee View Post
                    Before last night I thought AJ was top man. That was on an assumption of Fury never quite being the same.

                    But boxing is about how you're remembered. It doesn't matter whether he can beat them if he never gets the biggest fights of the era.

                    Joshua is about to announce his opponent for April. It will be underwhelming - unless it's one of the two from last night it will disappoint.

                    So where to now? Before last night everyone needed AJ. He didn't need them. I think this fight changed things. If he's on the outer for 2019 that's a big loss for him. Will Wilder still be fighting in 2020? A trilogy with Tyson might define his career and see him retire.
                    I'm glad you brought this up. He might only have 2 - 4 fights left. It could be 2 if he gets Joshua/Fury consecutively.

                    He's already 33...

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                    • Originally posted by Noelanthony View Post
                      I think Whyte and Joyce can beat Ortiz if that answers your question. Ortiz is old and slow and doesn’t hit hard enough to worry the top heavyweights......

                      Usyk will avoid Wilder’s left hand like the plague. He is more of a polished boxer than Fury and has a much better offensive although admittedly easier to hit than Fury


                      well, that would be the end of that

                      Usyk is also not 6'9

                      Wilder would monster Usyk

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