If Fury Beats Wilder can Joshua ever Surpass him?

[Earl-Hickey]

Joshua will never surpass fury because when Fury beats wilder, joshua is next.

Wilder is a more dangerous fight than Joshua, Joshua doesn't have anything special at all except size and conditioning. Fury beats him so easy it's not even funny.

Fury and wilder both beat Joshua. Fury beats them all.

I see this a lot yet Fury readily admits when he sparred with Joshua, Joshua almost took his head off

Fury just could not say enough good things about Joshua, how he was going to be a champ, how great he was etc

Then when Joshua wins a world title suddenly he becomes **** and Fury is now saying he battered joshua in sparring

It's kind of hilarious.

Fury does this a lot when he sees someone as a threat to himself, he used to do it with Price then when Price lost a couple of fights and was no longer being compared to Fury, suddenly fury became a big supporter of him

lol

[DARKSEID]

I see this a lot yet Fury readily admits when he sparred with Joshua, Joshua almost took his head off

Fury just could not say enough good things about Joshua, how he was going to be a champ, how great he was etc

Then when Joshua wins a world title suddenly he becomes **** and Fury is now saying he battered joshua in sparring

It's kind of hilarious.

Fury does this a lot when he sees someone as a threat to himself, he used to do it with Price then when Price lost a couple of fights and was no longer being compared to Fury, suddenly fury became a big supporter of him

lol

Tell me, what does Anthony Joshua have other than size and conditioning? He's a completely generic fighter, every single ATG over 6'3 beats him.

But Fury would give every atg problems with his combination of size and skillset.

[Earl-Hickey]

Tell me, what does Anthony Joshua have other than size and conditioning? He's a completely generic fighter, every single ATG over 6'3 beats him.

But Fury would give every atg problems with his combination of size and skillset.

Well obviously size and conditioning is pretty important.

He's a good counter puncher who can set up the end of a fight with one shot.

He's got better than advertised fundementals.

Fury has several advantages over him but it's not an easy pick for me, I think Fury would have problems if joshua let his hands go, i think he will have similar problems with Wilder tomorow, I just don't see him having the power to keep wilder honest

wilder and joshua aren't like Wlad, they are mentally set up different.

[DARKSEID]

Well obviously size and conditioning is pretty important.

He's a good counter puncher who can set up the end of a fight with one shot.

He's got better than advertised fundementals.

Fury has several advantages over him but it's not an easy pick for me, I think Fury would have problems if joshua let his hands go, i think he will have similar problems with Wilder tomorow, I just don't see him having the power to keep wilder honest

wilder and joshua aren't like Wlad, they are mentally set up different.

So your case for the fight is that "fury would have problems if joshua let his hands go " lol

So that's what you have to do to beat fury, "let your hands go"

As if that's easy with his footwork, head movement, feints and stance switching, on top of his ability to tie you up and wear you down on the inside with his size.

You let your hands go against fury, you're going to get set up and wore down. Nobody is beating fury.

[Nino250ex]

I think AJ has taken himself out of the spotlight a bit by not taking the Wilder fight and especially with his last couple of fights showing he is no true juggernaut in the ring.
If the AJ fight happens immediately with winner of this fight than he’ll gain some respect from me. If he dances around it then he’ll show his fear. Just my opinion

[DARKSEID]

I think AJ has taken himself out of the spotlight a bit by not taking the Wilder fight and especially with his last couple of fights showing he is no true juggernaut in the ring.
If the AJ fight happens immediately with winner of this fight than he’ll gain some respect from me. If he dances around it then he’ll show his fear. Just my opinion

There's no way he can avoid the winner of this fight. It's going to happen.

[Dat]

No. If Wilder wins, he would have beat the man who beat the man. Unless Joshua fights Wilder, which will not happen because of Hearn.

[Earl-Hickey]

So your case for the fight is that "fury would have problems if joshua let his hands go " lol

So that's what you have to do to beat fury, "let your hands go"

As if that's easy with his footwork, head movement, feints and stance switching, on top of his ability to tie you up and wear you down on the inside with his size.

You let your hands go against fury, you're going to get set up and wore down. Nobody is beating fury.

I've only really seen Fury box like an elite against one top level opponent and that was Klitschko.

If he can do it again vs Wilder I might become a believer but I need to see it more than once to be sure it wasn't just a bad style for Wladimir.