If Fury Beats Wilder can Joshua ever Surpass him?

**Earl-Hickey** · 11-30-2018, 07:48 PM

Well at the time Fury fought klitschko Joshua was still a prospect so it's not Joshua's fault that fury "beat him to klitschko"

If Fury beats Wilder it will make Joshua look silly tbh but what happens if Joshua then beats fury himself?

We won't know how it will all end up until they've retired

**Sable&Whitefish** · 11-30-2018, 08:44 PM

It would depend on how he won, in part. Regardless I think that if Fury wins he'd be #1 and Joshua would be #2. Joshua has the best resume at heavyweight, it's inarguable. It would still rival Fury's if Fury beat Wilder, but he'd be a close second. If Fury then fought Joshua the winner would be #1 and no one could make a valid argument against them.

**R-Hand Southpaw** · 11-30-2018, 08:54 PM

The only way for Joshua to surpass him is to beat him. But honestly, AJ and company claimed they didnt want fury because he was out of shape and out of boxing. That's bull**** because Wlad, his best win, was barely any different.

Wlad was coming off a long layoff too and to top it off AJ went life and death with a guy who was 41 on his home turf!

I also think if fury wins, and wins convincingly he is the new #1 despite having less belts than AJ.

Wilder called AJs bluff, and as a third party with no bias in the HW division, embarrassed him bad. Then to top it off Fury jumped in and AJ got left out. It was a bad look regardless of what happened behind the scenes.

**EasternEuroFan** · 11-30-2018, 09:30 PM

Only by beating him.

As it stands, AJ's best win is a Fury leftover, an inactive 41 year old leftover at that. That's not knocking AJ, it's just a fact.

Fury would have a better win over Wlad and then Wilder on top. AJ is building a nice resume, but Fury would have two much bigger scalps. Not to mention that Chisora might end up being AJ's opponent in April and Fury has already made Chisora quit on his stool and has two wins over him.

When Fury wins tomorrow, nobody can question who is the number 1 when it comes to facts.

**R01** · 11-30-2018, 09:32 PM

Heard and AJ will be cheering Wilder. I don’t think they expected Fury to come in and take the fight that soon.

**Earl-Hickey** · 11-30-2018, 09:40 PM

Originally posted by Socialtwinkie

The only way for Joshua to surpass him is to beat him. But honestly, AJ and company claimed they didnt want fury because he was out of shape and out of boxing. That's bull**** because Wlad, his best win, was barely any different.

Wlad was coming off a long layoff too and to top it off AJ went life and death with a guy who was 41 on his home turf!

I also think if fury wins, and wins convincingly he is the new #1 despite having less belts than AJ.

Wilder called AJs bluff, and as a third party with no bias in the HW division, embarrassed him bad. Then to top it off Fury jumped in and AJ got left out. It was a bad look regardless of what happened behind the scenes.

Troll confirmed

**R-Hand Southpaw** · 11-30-2018, 10:35 PM

Originally posted by earl-hickey

Troll confirmed

Dude. I dont even care who is the champ at HW. You're the ****ing troll with all your troll ass threads.

I see you all day everyday posting dumb biased ****.

Feel free to look through my history like all you chumps like to do.

You're welcome!

**Marchegiano** · 11-30-2018, 11:29 PM

Originally posted by Socialtwinkie

I see you all day everyday posting dumb biased ****.

That's true

**DARKSEID** · 11-30-2018, 11:30 PM

Joshua will never surpass fury because when Fury beats wilder, joshua is next.

Wilder is a more dangerous fight than Joshua, Joshua doesn't have anything special at all except size and conditioning. Fury beats him so easy it's not even funny.

Fury and wilder both beat Joshua. Fury beats them all.

If Fury Beats Wilder can Joshua ever Surpass him?