Comments Thread For: Wilder Weighs In Even Lower Than For Ortiz Fight; Fury 256.5

[Dasmius Shinobi]

I am salivating for this fight already and i am exited

The Black Menace of Death Wilder is serious about this battle, like people said, he going with endurance, agility, speed and fighting in the back foot. I also like to add this light help immensely in his explosiveness of shots. If Fury have the endurance and avoid direct shots for all 12 rounds, use smothering with his size in the clinches and make Wilder pay when he miss his shots, then he can have a good chance to pull off the upset.

[SchoolTheseCats]

The weight won't matter in this fight because Fury is such a shell of himself, but Wilder will get manhandled by Joshua if he comes in around the same weight in that matchup

Joshua couldn’t even manhandle his last 3 opponents

[EasternEuroFan]

A Realist would mention that the stoppage of Scott vs Chisora was totally bogus. Counted out at 9. All Scott did vs Ortiz was run. Ortiz KO'd Jennings when Wlad couldn't. The same goes for the last guy he fought, that Parker couldn't KO. Ortiz is definitely better than Whyte or Chisora, but doubt if Hearn will let it happen.

Bogus count or not, at least Chisora was good enough to create openings and drop Scott, even with Scott's negative style. Ortiz on the other hand followed him around looking clueless. You know why? Because Ortiz is really a gatekeeper level fighter.

People rate him higher simply because Cuban's have a reputation for being good boxers.

If a guy was from Philadelphia and his best wins were over Jennings years ago and a 12 round stinker with Malik Scott and he got stopped in his only big fight, he would be considered as a C level gatekeeper level.

Ortiz is no better than the likes of Breazeale, Molina etc..

The proof is there, but people can't accept it.

[MC Hammer]

Come on man, Wilder landed a right before that, then was swinging while they were in the clinch. Wilder threw a dazed and already stumbling Ortiz to the ground, using his momentum after numerous rabbit punches to the head!

He ain't throwing Fury about lol



Edit: he was also visibly tired in the 10th round.

Yeah and if Fury's plan is to clinch and muscle Wilder like you say he will be eating one of those rights too and be thrown across the ring as well.

[BigZ44]

Joshua couldn’t even manhandle his last 3 opponents

Lol, Povetkin got ****ed up after he studied him and figured him out. Leaned on Povetkin and took away his legs then blasted him to smithereens and Wilder weighs ten pounds less

[lefthooklead]

Losing 90/80 lbs for Wlad is a complete myth he weighed 262 lbs 9 months prior against Hammer. So he would have had to have gained 80 lbs and then lose 90lbs all within 9 months which is obviously unrealistic. Not hating, just pointing this out.

Fury lost 150lbs in 6 months and is known to put on 1 stone (14lbs) in a few days. Entirely realistic for a man like Tyson.

[lefthooklead]

Bogus count or not, at least Chisora was good enough to create openings and drop Scott, even with Scott's negative style. Ortiz on the other hand followed him around looking clueless. You know why? Because Ortiz is really a gatekeeper level fighter.

People rate him higher simply because Cuban's have a reputation for being good boxers.

If a guy was from Philadelphia and his best wins were over Jennings years ago and a 12 round stinker with Malik Scott and he got stopped in his only big fight, he would be considered as a C level gatekeeper level.

Ortiz is no better than the likes of Breazeale, Molina etc..

The proof is there, but people can't accept it.

You think Molina and Breazeale would hold up well with Ortiz??

[EasternEuroFan]

You think Molina and Breazeale would hold up well with Ortiz??

Hard to tell when his best win is Jennings years ago and he has been flattened in his only big test.

Not saying he could/wouldn't beat them, but what has he proven in recent years to say that he definitely could?

He's never proven to be anything more than a B or C level fighter.

I'm still waiting for someone to tell me what he's actually done to be considered to be a top heavyweight right now? people seem to go quiet and have no answers.

Jennings wasn't even that good and that was ages ago anyway

[SchoolTheseCats]

Lol, Povetkin got ****ed up after he studied him and figured him out. Leaned on Povetkin and took away his legs then blasted him to smithereens and Wilder weighs ten pounds less

Pedvetkin was winning the fight until he got caught...

[Jax teller]

Fury lost 150lbs in 6 months and is known to put on 1 stone (14lbs) in a few days. Entirely realistic for a man like Tyson.

Man if you want to believe that I'm not going to argue with you.