Comments Thread For: Wilder: We All Know Fury Didn't Beat Klitschko; He Beat Himself

[NachoMan]

He's got to 40 and 0 because he was fighting over matched stationary targets and he was saved by the bell his last fight against the only puncher he's fought. I'm a boxing expert , you are the peasant.

Expert? Having a Boxingscene.com account does not confer expert status, kid.

[Jewish-Reptile]

Both Wilder and Fury have distinctive advantages but Wilder's most underrated and ignored advantage over Fury is that Wilder doesn't know how to lose and has extreme confidence. On the other hand, Fury has to have a wealth of self doubt that no amount of talking and showboating can hide. Not self doubt due to a ring loss, but the self doubt that all addicts and self destructive people live with daily.

Tyson Fury's biggest flaw is Tyson Fury.

I’d have to agree with this, Fury really comes across as insecure I mean they tried feed him Pianeta to boost his confidence with a stoppage and he flunked that one too, poor guy.

[Fabes88]

You know what I fully agree with this. That’s why I really wanted to see a rematch between the two something just seemed off that night. And the rumours of his training camp being affected by his wife’s postnatal depression don’t seem too far fetched.

[Kirk087]

I agree with Wilder 100 percent. Klitcho could not pull the trigger the whole fight. Of course the size and mobility of Fury didn't help but still.. he didn't even throw punches that missed. .Age catches up to you. You can see the openings but you just don't react to get there with your punches

[mrlopez]

Somebody from Wilder's team needs to tell him to stfu. He constantly either talks out the side of his mouth, contradicts himself or complains. Now all of a sudden Klit beat himself? But in the weeks leading up to this fight, Wilder claims that Tysons win over Klit was legit and better than Joshuas? Klit was definitely a better fighter vs AJ than Tyson, so....

[REDEEMER]

Expert? Having a Boxingscene.com account does not confer expert status, kid.

That would be obvious as you have one? See you can only out think yourself !

[Boxing Goat]

Wladimir was almost 40 and his reflexes were shot. Wlad from even a year earlier would have beaten Fury easily. Let's be honest.

[angkag]

Wladimir was almost 40 and his reflexes were shot. Wlad from even a year earlier would have beaten Fury easily. Let's be honest.

I felt Wlad was gunshy in the Fury fight. Fury gets some credit for that of course, but Wlad's age and disposition would have played a part. Wlad spent a decade plus protecting a dodgy chin, and part of that was having the speed to identify and take advantage of openings while closing down the opponents opportunity to counter (often by clinching etc, but he had a system).

Older fighters often get gunshy when they identify and react to opportunities a split-second too late, so they keep their punches at home as opportunity after opportunity passes them by.

He corrected with Joshua, but ended up doing what he was scared of doing with Fury - getting caught - and he did get caught (and wisely recognised it was the end of the road).

So Wilder potentially has a point. Would Fury have been able to do the same to the Wlad of 5 years before ? That's opinion, but I don't think he would. Fury got to Wlad at the perfect time, and beating him elevated his status above where I think he really stands in the heavyweight ranks.

I hope Fury proves me wrong against Wilder (just like Saunders proved me wrong vs Lemieux), but I think Wilder is liable to put Fury in his place, especially given Fury's inactivity at the top level over the past few years (along with all the other problems).

[jglvz256]

Somebody from Wilder's team needs to tell him to stfu. He constantly either talks out the side of his mouth, contradicts himself or complains. Now all of a sudden Klit beat himself? But in the weeks leading up to this fight, Wilder claims that Tysons win over Klit was legit and better than Joshuas? Klit was definitely a better fighter vs AJ than Tyson, so....

Next Wilder will say that Fury is past his best and out of shape. Or that Fury isn't the real lineal champion. Wilder his own worst troll.

[Noelanthony]

I am Wilder fan but honestly think he may lose this fight he has terrible footwork for a boxer and surely Fury can Capitalise on that so what you say Mr Barrett when Fury when on points you think he is not entitled to 50-50 with AJ?

Or you still think he is the A side despite not even being in a PPV in America

There is being a fan of Wilder which I can casually say I am, and a Wilder fan. Wilder fans ( now I will not include you in this as I’ve spoke to you privately on a level and you have your s#hit together)should not be approached. They are incredibly dangerous and volatile. If captured please keep it alive .I would like to bring them to a lab under monitored ,stable environment, preferably the U.K. and understand their thought process