Comments Thread For: Luis Ortiz: Zero Respect For Joshua, At Least Wilder Stepped Up

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  • Adamsc151
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    #41
    Originally posted by Ajvar
    I wish we saw it. I have a feeling that Klit would survive and AJ's tank was on its low.
    His tank was low when he went down, and Wlad missed his chance to finish things in the few rounds afterwards. By the time it was stopped Joshua was into his 2nd wind, dropped Wlad twice in one round and was about to put him down again. No doubt Wlad was up on points by a round or 2 on my card at the start of the 10th, but he thought the 2nd wind wasn't coming and was trying to coast to the finish. Complacency beat him as much as AJ did.

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    • PotentialToast
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      #42
      Join matchroom, beat somebody decent and then whinge. Hell, I'd fancy Dave Allen in a rematch.

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        #43
        Originally posted by Vinnykin
        No chance he beats Joshua, he'd be countered all night. He couldn't walk down Joshua like he done Wilder, and he'd be getting punched back for the first 4 rounds, unlike Wilder, who ran and was trying to take him deep.

        Ortiz is promoting himself but he's out the loop now, fighting guys like Cojanu and Kauffman. Until he beats another top guy he needs to STFU.

        No Question Ortiz KO's Joshua. Joshua doesn't have the chin to go against hard punchers like Ortiz and is EXACTLY why he is only matched with slow or smaller light punching heavyweights. He'll avoid, Wilder, Fury and Ortiz at all costs.

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          #44
          Originally posted by Robi13
          Ortiz would give joshua many troubles. He has a chance to win that fight
          I agree. Ortiz would have a very good chance of beating Joshua. I mean he almost beat Wilder and I was thinking he had him out until the ref. For some ***ED up reason called a TO to give Wilder more time to recover which was BS!!! Wilder was woozy but NOT cut.

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          • Shadoww702
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            #45
            Originally posted by Straightener
            He was definitely winning the fight and definitely got knocked the **** out

            Everyone’s a winner
            AND the Ref. ***ed Ortiz over.

            You even remember the Timeout called when Wilder was hurt???

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            • Madison Boxing
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              #46
              Whats ortiz done to deserve a shot

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              • Vinnykin
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                #47
                Originally posted by bluemax
                No Question Ortiz KO's Joshua. Joshua doesn't have the chin to go against hard punchers like Ortiz and is EXACTLY why he is only matched with slow or smaller light punching heavyweights. He'll avoid, Wilder, Fury and Ortiz at all costs.
                No question he doesn't see the 4th rounds against a bigger, stronger counter-puncher like Joshua. He's way too slow for Joshua and doesn't have the stamina or experience Joshua has..... who knows how Ortiz would react to being involved in his first big fight in front of 80,000 people?

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                • NachoMan
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
                  Not sure how you draw the conclusion that Ortiz beats Parker, Takam, Wlad. What was it in his previous fights, and against who exactly, that leads you to believe this? He fought absolutely no one prior to Wilder, and Wilder fought absolutely no one prior to Ortiz. If anything, I'd say Ortiz took a step up to fight Wilder, but Wilder never took a step up. Took him 40 fights to fight a flabby old man. In half as many fights AJ has fought better competition.

                  For context, I don't think AJ, Wilder or anyone else in this HW era is all that good. None of them survive the 90s.
                  Well, damn, we almost agree on something there, which tells me that you at least hated the Klutchko era. Truthfully, the HW division has ****** forever, but these guys are all bigger than Lennox nowadays, so some of them could definitely compete on pure size with a lot of guys from the 90s. Now if Evander would have been 6'6" and 250lb every single HW from 1995-present would be in a body bag.

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                  • NachoMan
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by DramaShow
                    Whats ortiz done to deserve a shot
                    He went life and death against the most feared HW in the sport. The rest of his resume could read 0-0.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by bluemax
                      No Question Ortiz KO's Joshua. Joshua doesn't have the chin to go against hard punchers like Ortiz and is EXACTLY why he is only matched with slow or smaller light punching heavyweights. He'll avoid, Wilder, Fury and Ortiz at all costs.
                      So povetkin and klitshcko are light punchers now and ortiz is quick?!?! Lmao

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