So Arum offered D Garcia 3 mill for a Crawford fight in March..

[Jsmooth9876]

Don't know for sure, but Danny Garcia seems to be fighting for similar money doing things on his own terms and taking the fights he wants.

Making basically the same money that you get on your own, to not only now work for someone, but to have that person dictate how your work is supposed to go, doesn't quite square.

Danny Garcia, after not getting the decision in a close fight with Shawn Porter, is headlining a show on primetime FOX in April, on a DSG Promotions card, against a solid rugged guy in Adrian Granados, for a pay package that likely matches the Top Rank offer (talk of PPV upside for a Crawford fight is laughable at this point).

Dude stop it. Garcia ain't coming close to 3 million fighting Granados. You living in fantasy land or what?

[GhostofDempsey]

$4m to deliver MGM Resorts and a formal US PPV effort for Manny Pacquiao was a low-ball offer, and was perfectly within reason to walk away from.

Pacquiao-Vargas, the fight that Pacquiao took instead, maybe cleared $20m at the end of the day. Pacquiao-Garcia or Pacquiao-Broner (with the formal media push from HBO, MGM, and the national/international media) would've comfortably cleared $40m at the end of the day.

With no offer for a share on that extra $20m, the fight didn't make sense.

Garcia is not a draw, at least not a 2x more draw than Vargas. He does well at Barclay's but outside of that, he still hasn't produced a payday beyond $2M. His stock would have gone up considerably from the Pac fight, especially if he pulled off a victory.

[Scipio2009]

Wilder was offered $15 mil and he declined, not to mention 3 title shots.
D Garcia got far better resume than Deontay's,
yet $3 mil is already a lot of money.
I mean the difference in resume and popularity is not even close.
See how greedy Wilder is?
$15 mil and he said no.

$15m to travel to the UK, when you reasonably know that the exact same fight in your own home market is worth at least $70m? lol.

Fair value is still fair value; if the numbers don't make sense, the fight doesn't make sense.

60/40 Joshua was fair value for Joshua-Wilder in this past Fall (65/35 Joshua on the specifics, with a ~5% bump for passing on the money in Las Vegas to travel). As a cash offer, based on what Hearn has stated the fight was worth, that'd put the flat fee at $18m.

With the Fall date falling through, the price on the fair deal has gone up.

Danny Garcia is likely already on a pay package of $2m+ for having his own fights. There's a value to crossing over and giving Terence Crawford his first top-shelf opponent that's well beyond the extra million that Top Rank tried to get around Garcia's management to offer, lol.

[Scipio2009]

see perfect example here.... broner has value?? TR wasnt willing to pay him?? has broner ever headline a ppv yet??? lmao! $3mil was more than what broner was getting at that time! matter fact, i dont even think broner has made more than $3mil in one fight yet.

Pacquiao/Top Rank shorted the offer to Broner, and ended up maybe selling 300000 PPVs fighting Jessie Vargas (Even if you take Arum as speaking the truth, which he hardly does, that's $10m in total take on the US PPV) and doing maybe $5m at the live gate (folks have not said much about the actual numbers, which of usually bad news). If Pacquiao made $15m off the fight, I'd be shocked.

Pacquiao-Broner, back then, would've at least easily doubled the pot generated for Pacquiao-Vargas.

Fair value above everything

[Scipio2009]

Dude stop it. Garcia ain't coming close to 3 million fighting Granados. You living in fantasy land or what?

The Danny Garcia Show is headlining the April primetime date on FOX (Unsure of how the money has been allocated, but PBC did just get $60m a year for the next 4 years to deliver 10 FOX cards and 12 FS1 cards [with some of the FS1 shows being special attraction] per year), Danny Garcia is a strong ticket seller in the LA market that will host the fight (did, I believe, over 12000 for the Guerrero fight), and the general PBC event experience comes with sponsor money and international TV interest (TSN in Canada, Telivisa in Mexico, Fox Sports for the rest of Latin America, BoxNation/BT Sport in the UK, etc).

All money in, it wouldn't shock me too much to find out that Danny's pot ends up $5m+.

Pay the promoters who did the day-to-day work to stage the fight, pay Haymon his fee, and pay any other party after the event, and Garcia is likely looking at an easy $2m-$3m for himself.

$2m from FOX for the US TV rights, let's even put the number as low as $1m for the TV rights to Canada/Mexico/Latin America, let's call it a net $1m on the live event (tickets/sponsors/merch less rent/marketing/staging expenses), who knows how much from BoxNation/BT Sport for the UK TV rights, etc.

[Snowballer]

Collazo is with Haymon so they are working together.

Collazo is expendable. He's only there to be a name against the top roster or for the quick buck for his team like in this case.

Haymon would not usually put one of his top fighters against a favorite, its better for him to keep his top fighters in-house unless they have a good chance at winning.

[Scipio2009]

Garcia is not a draw, at least not a 2x more draw than Vargas. He does well at Barclay's but outside of that, he still hasn't produced a payday beyond $2M. His stock would have gone up considerably from the Pac fight, especially if he pulled off a victory.

Pacquiao-Danny would've been picked up by HBO and MGM Resorts; Pacquiao-Vargas was picked up by neither.

Unless you're simply fighting without any real opportunities, you don't short yourself for anything. Even Manny Pacquiao. If Tim Bradley got an alleged $10m to fight Pacquiao, that was the price for Danny Garcia to fight Pacquiao.