Wilder is unloading a bunch of tickets to firemen

[Bobby Deez]

story "wilder giving away tix to local firemen who have been hailed as brave heroes"

UK fanboy spin "wilder giving away thousands upon thousdands of tickets cause nobody knows who he is...trust me i saw fury make a video about nobody know him and not a single ticket is paid for"

[Scipio2009]

Where are you getting these figures from?

Whyte Parker only made around 1 mil each.

Bellew only got 4 mil against Usyk.

The only way to earn the money your talking of is by fighting AJ, stop over inflating estimates to protect Wilders decision to pass on Whyte aka ducking him.

In answer to why would Wilder take 15 mil because he's 'about legacy not money' and winning make 41-0 undisputed and would sky rocket his future potential earnings but he clearly isn't about that. That's not me saying it was a good deal but a neccessary sacrifice if he meant what he said.

If given the chance to market Wilder-Whyte from the O2 Arena, Eddie Hearn is a heck of a promoter and knows the UK beyond well enough to draw a strong sold out crowd at the venue, with Sky Sports doing a heck of a job selling the "brash, American knockout machine" to their audience for Sky Box Office.

After knocking over his cans, 400k-500k was basically Anthony Joshua's PPV range before the Klitschko fight launched him into superstardom; Wilder was arguably well beyond that when the Whyte fight was bandied about.

If you want to argue that Wilder-Whyte wouldn't have done 400k in the UK, come out and say it.

Future earnings don't matter when the talk is of giving up a potential $70m+ to make a fight because someone is refusing to travel; make a fair offer on the smaller pot, or kick rocks.

$15m on a pot that Eddie Hearn has said will maybe top $45m (when it's public knowledge that the Joshua-Klitschko fight saw the two fighters split $50m, plus their own personal sponsors) isn't fair value, full stop.

[Scipio2009]

AJ's draw has risen massively since Wlad, you haven't factored this in or his multiple sponsors when comparing the two.

Are mexicans really going to care about Wilder?

Wilder Fury is not doing anywhere 750k buys in the UK with the time difference and the poor quality of card, Haymon and co have really failed to invest in a massive opportunity to boost Wilders profile again also possibly pricing themself out, at $75, from the larger proportion of the casual market.


Stop pulling figures out your ass.

$50m is still $50m, and Joshua hasn't generated that since the Klitschko fight.

Wilder-Joshua was already worth $70m+ this past Fall (SHOPPV/MGM Resorts/Sky Box Office); who's really failed to invest in a massive opportunity to boost their profile, lol?

PPV doesn't really exist in Mexico, so that's not quite relevant; primetime across Latin America is fine for sentiment, but having the US and Canadian PPV markets both for primetime is being severely overlooked.

[Scipio2009]

None of what Eddie Hearn had to say about a 50/50 split has anything to do with how many ppvs Wilder-Fury is going to do LMAO. Mayweather-Berto did 390k buys and Floyd is way way way more well known than either of these guys. These guys aren't doing 500k buys either. Again Showtime has stated they would be very happy with 350k buys so it is you who needs to STFU.

1 million buys you made everyone in here die laughing. I live close to LA and I haven't seen one billboard about the fight. It isn't be promoted very much. SMH moron.

There's an article on this very site that you've seemed to have blocked out of your mind, lol

[_Rexy_]

The fight is in less than 72 hours and you got people on here acting like girls saying nobody will be there.

Shut the **** up and let’s just wait until Saturday.

[Scipio2009]

We'll see on Saturday, now won't we. If you honestly think that 15000 tickets are being sold, your'e the biggest fool on this site.

You do know they can slash the prices on those thousands and thousands of seats on Stubhub. Wilder can also come through and buy a bunch of tickets just like Floyd and Manny do all the time in Vegas. Both of them would buy over 1 million worth of tickets for their fights

^^^lol, don't start trying to hide now.

The pricing of the tickets has been set, and when it does come out that the tickets sold get near 15000, when you seem to think that 5000 is more likely, you're going to swallow that ****.

Stand by your words.

[Robbie Barrett]

^^^lol, don't start trying to hide now.

The pricing of the tickets has been set, and when it does come out that the tickets sold get near 15000, when you seem to think that 5000 is more likely, you're going to swallow that ****.

Stand by your words.

I doubt we'll get to know how many were really sold or the gate.

[Jax teller]

If given the chance to market Wilder-Whyte from the O2 Arena, Eddie Hearn is a heck of a promoter and knows the UK beyond well enough to draw a strong sold out crowd at the venue, with Sky Sports doing a heck of a job selling the "brash, American knockout machine" to their audience for Sky Box Office.

After knocking over his cans, 400k-500k was basically Anthony Joshua's PPV range before the Klitschko fight launched him into superstardom; Wilder was arguably well beyond that when the Whyte fight was bandied about.

If you want to argue that Wilder-Whyte wouldn't have done 400k in the UK, come out and say it.

Future earnings don't matter when the talk is of giving up a potential $70m+ to make a fight because someone is refusing to travel; make a fair offer on the smaller pot, or kick rocks.

$15m on a pot that Eddie Hearn has said will maybe top $45m (when it's public knowledge that the Joshua-Klitschko fight saw the two fighters split $50m, plus their own personal sponsors) isn't fair value, full stop.

400K buys isn't that much in the UK at £20 per buy (8 mil) and after other peoples cuts have been taken, plus from what I remember the fight wasn't neccessarily going to be in the UK anyway. Whyte is would also be largely responsible for a large part of the buys, a fight like Wilder Brazeale would not do 400k buys because neither is not known to the British public.

Klitschko is more famous and has his own european draw that Wilder doesn't so that could actually be a key cause as to why Wilder vs Joshua isn't as much as you think when using this comparison.

Also when fighting for the undisputed Lewis (WBC & Lineal champ) only got 33% from Holyfield (WBA & IBF) why would Wilder deserve more?

From the way the Wilder Fury fight is going your projections are seriously overstated , the US demand just isn't there atm (this could change fight night) and your not gonna get the pre-fight amateur dramatics with 'boring' AJ to generat extra hype/sales.

[Jsmooth9876]

Smiles.... That's why you need to support dazn.

Cheers bro.

Dazn is not free either but I'm a subscriber.

I have DAZN, ESPN+, Showtime and I pay for my basic cable package every month yet these clowns wanna push a fight that should be on one of these type outlets on me for $75.. NO THANKS.....

[Scipio2009]

400K buys isn't that much in the UK at £20 per buy (8 mil) and after other peoples cuts have been taken, plus from what I remember the fight wasn't neccessarily going to be in the UK anyway. Whyte is would also be largely responsible for a large part of the buys, a fight like Wilder Brazeale would not do 400k buys because neither is not known to the British public.

Klitschko is more famous and has his own european draw that Wilder doesn't so that could actually be a key cause as to why Wilder vs Joshua isn't as much as you think when using this comparison.

Also when fighting for the undisputed Lewis (WBC & Lineal champ) only got 33% from Holyfield (WBA & IBF) why would Wilder deserve more?

From the way the Wilder Fury fight is going your projections are seriously overstated , the US demand just isn't there atm (this could change fight night) and your not gonna get the pre-fight amateur dramatics with 'boring' AJ to generat extra hype/sales.

Wilder-Whyte is a far bigger fight than any of Joshua's first 4 PPVs, and that's pretty clear, imo. It's nowhere near Joshua-Klitschko, but it's still a big fight.

500k buys in the UK, times £20 per buy, gets you to £10m; $1.4:£1 and you've basically cleared $7m once the outside parties are paid (assuming that the UK and US are the same, and that Sky Sports, as distributor and operator, takes half of everything).

On top of that, Showtime would easily pay $2m-$3m for the US rights to the fight (the fee for Joshua had gotten up to $3m if I recall).

And then you've got the live event at O2; no idea what the gates on Joshua's O2 fights were, but that'd be a good place to start, imo.

There's still a lot of unknown here, but the parts adding up to $15m+ isn't that tough, and Wilder getting only $8m off of that is silly. If Whyte was the draw you expect, he would've earned more than that £1m for the Parker fight, right?

Comparing Lennox Lewis to this is a clear red herring; MGM Resorts/Showtime were ready/willing/able to put up $60m to stage the fight in Las Vegas and Joshua simply didn't want to travel (Wilder's take was likely largely dependent on how well the event ended up doing, but Haymon/Finkell weren't going to have him step in with no guarantee; $50m to Joshua, $10m to Wilder as the guarantees makes sense). You add that Joseph Parker allegedly got a third to make his trip to the UK (with far less money coming from his own home market), and the attempt is even sillier.

AXS.com, eyeballing the map, has 1500 tickets left for sale, lol.