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  • #81
    Originally posted by Laligalaliga View Post
    What makes Ortiz most technically skilled boxer in the division?

    What do you classify as been technically skilled? And what does he do that others don't that gave him such rating?

    Lastly, with all these so called technically skilled, why hasn't he been a champ? Ever!!
    Ortiz turned pro late, and so far has had only one shot at the title, and almost had it. By technically skilled I mean several things. Footwork, how he cuts off the ring, using a well timed variety of punches both offensively and defensively, counter-punching, good jab, ring generalship. Add to that he has a lot of power and is a southpaw. That is what makes Hearn cringe and run when thinking about matching any of his guys up against him. Ortiz's only downfall is his stamina due to his age. Otherwise he would beat Wilder, Fury, and Joshua.

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    • #82
      Wow incredible logic Freddie... You've really convinced me.

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      • #83
        An absurd comparison by Roach and I am half-surprised he said this- half because what else would he do but be supportive of the guy paying him yet also half because he should know better.

        Wlad and Deontay are completely different animals.

        Wlad has an average chin.

        That's why he brought in Manny Steward and learned a cautious, defense first style.

        And that is what Peter Fury gameplanned against so brilliantly in 2015.

        That aint gonna work vs Deontay, however.

        Deontay will attack, will take chances.

        Deontay will do his best not to be careless, but he also is very confident of his ability to take punches.

        And honestly, he has taken bigger shots than Tyson seems capable of.

        He will line Tyson up and take him out.

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        • #84
          Originally posted by JWHardin View Post
          Ortiz turned pro late, and so far has had only one shot at the title, and almost had it. By technically skilled I mean several things. Footwork, how he cuts off the ring, using a well timed variety of punches both offensively and defensively, counter-punching, good jab, ring generalship. Add to that he has a lot of power and is a southpaw. That is what makes Hearn cringe and run when thinking about matching any of his guys up against him. Ortiz's only downfall is his stamina due to his age. Otherwise he would beat Wilder, Fury, and Joshua.
          I will agree with some of the qualities you stated but you just said "might" beat the too three guys.
          He already lost to one, I don't see him beating either AJ or fury.

          Hez a 50/50 with whyte and Parker. I cant confidently say he will beat big baby.

          But all that are just based on fans opinion. We wouldn't know not until they fight.

          For now hez a good boxer until he does something spectacular.

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