Comments Thread For: Wilder: Joshua is Brainwashed, Will Regret Not Taking $50 Million

[GhostofDempsey]

But no one wants to see him fight those guys. If wilder wants to fight NOW Then that’s when the fans want it to happen. And for your last paragraph it’s funny you say “if his end game is money” because Joshua himself said it wasn’t. That’s why he turned down the $50 mil. So if he keeps fighting guys for money then he is doubling down on his word. That’s things the public won’t settle for. Mayweather and pacquiao are both still labeled as ducks for their reasons for not making the fight sooner. “Afraid of needles” “health comes first” etc. . Ducking and quiting follows you forever. Ri**** Bowe will be remembered for throwing his belt away before anything else. Duran no mas. That’s just the way it is in this sport. Will he lose all his fans. No. But his fan base will dwindle. No one wants to back the “duck”. And if he starts fighting other guys while wilder is screaming for a fight, then that’s exactly what people will start to think of AJ. Canelo lost fans when he relinquished the WBC belt, mayweather, pacquiao lost them to. And those guys had already cemented their legacy’s at that point. Aj will not be immune. If he avoids wilder his legacy will be tarnished before he even has the chance to complete it

No one? So no one wanted to see him fight Takam? Takam took the fight on short notice and they still had over 75K fans. Joshus earned over $15M. You think no one would pay or show up for Miller, Ortiz, Fury, or a Wlad rematch? Come on man.

Like I said before, if AJ cares more about money than legacy (as most fighters do today) then he can go two more years without fighting Wilder and still earn $100M or more in that time. Wilder will be lucky to sniff 20% of that. And if Wilder was so concerned about legacy, why the hell did it take him 40 fights before he fought a legit contender?

[vitali1999]

The Brits wants him to take two more tune ups lmaoo who takes 4 tuneups? Pathetic if you ask me

No more tune ups. Wilders gonna have 9 months since his last fight and fury 4 plus Vitali beat the WBC champion after 4 years inactivity and no tune ups. So it's do or die

[Scipio2009]

Joshua will make that in his next two fights. How many fights will Wilder have to make after Fury to earn $15M?

500k PPV buys, at $65/$75, puts $17m into the pot, MGM Resorts hosting the heavyweight champion of the world could easily be worth $10m, and BT Sport likely pays a decent price to have a Heavyweight champion featured on their channel too.

You add the extra interest from Canada for "The Champ" (an additional PPV market also in primetime), and the other revenues (merch, event sponsors, Fathom Events, the rest of the international TV, etc) the pot on a Wilder fight can easily be expected to get to $40m, going forward.

Lol

[Lopez_Boxing]

No one? So no one wanted to see him fight Takam? Takam took the fight on short notice and they still had over 75K fans. Joshus earned over $15M. You think no one would pay or show up for Miller, Ortiz, Fury, or a Wlad rematch? Come on man.

Like I said before, if AJ cares more about money than legacy (as most fighters do today) then he can go two more years without fighting Wilder and still earn $100M or more in that time. Wilder will be lucky to sniff 20% of that. And if Wilder was so concerned about legacy, why the hell did it take him 40 fights before he fought a legit contender?

Ok you got me. When I said no one I didn't mean LITERALY. Kinda like when people said "no one want a to see maywesther vs beto . People still atteneted and ordered hia dighr, but his numbers took a hit Sure some people will go to/ order his fights. but his numbers will dwindle.The people you mentioned are still credible fights. But like the crowd chanted after the Takam fight, they were chatting wilder. They want that fight. And they booed Hearn so they aren't going to be patient long. And even if he DOES make 100 mil 200 mil his next fights without wilder. As a fan I care about fighters legacy.. I couldn't give 1 a hot about their money. I don't count I don't spend. Hell there's no guarantee he will have his fortune forever. And to logical An said he doesn't care about money so why would you or I care about HIS money. So if he starts taking fighta for money, then you shouldnt bor could you defend him. I dont measure a man in dollars. Maywesther has a ton of money amd not many people think high of me
Fortunes come ans go Tyson lost his, but Tyson Legacy last forever. As far as Aj goes right now he's the guy that turned down the exact number he asked for. Right now he's the guy that said "that the fans should fight him"if he fights any one but wilder next it will be a a dark apt on his legacy. And that's what you measure a man by

[Lopez_Boxing]

the offer is on the table for wilder in april in wembley for more money than he is ever likely to earn.....the fury fight will certainly not earn him the $20 million he has been offered to sign to fight joshua.
When the wilder fury fight lowballs and makes less than 300k buys i'm curious how wilders team can spin it.
Joshua has consistently beaten better and better opponents and klitchcko and povetkin i believe would have knocked wilder into tomorrow.
Wilder needs to be reasonable with his demands and the fight will get made....if he keeps on asking for 50% and he is not bringing equal amounts to the table then its wilders own doing if the fight don't get made.
I think you know deep down joshua will put one on wilder if the fight takes place...joshua has proven time and time again he will beat world class opponents....that will continue when he knocks wilder out

Wilder does need to be reasonable but so does team an. And to be honest 50% is more reasonable than 20 flat. But money shouldn't be a hold up. Aj is on record saying he doesn't care about money. Wilder brings more to the table than given credit. But I'm not into their financials, I have a hard of enough time trying to keep up with mine......youre last point, no question Aj is more technically sound, but what he lacks will play in to wilder strengths

[Deus]

500k PPV buys, at $65/$75, puts $17m into the pot, MGM Resorts hosting the heavyweight champion of the world could easily be worth $10m, and BT Sport likely pays a decent price to have a Heavyweight champion featured on their channel too.

You add the extra interest from Canada for "The Champ" (an additional PPV market also in primetime), and the other revenues (merch, event sponsors, Fathom Events, the rest of the international TV, etc) the pot on a Wilder fight can easily be expected to get to $40m, going forward.

Lol

Vegas didn't even pickup this fight... you honestly expect something like Wilder vs Breazeale (a fight which has to happen soon) to be shown in Vegas and on PPV?

[STREET CLEANER]

Most crying here like they don't want the fight. This is the biggest fight that can be made and you have people crying here about finances.

Both guys are taking the best available opposition. If Wilder wins that is the only fight that matters at HW.

[Scipio2009]

Vegas didn't even pickup this fight... you honestly expect something like Wilder vs Breazeale (a fight which has to happen soon) to be shown in Vegas and on PPV?

If MGM Resorts had T-Mobile Arena or MGM Grand free when Wilder-Fury was set to go, the fight would've ended up in Las Vegas. Don't kid yourself.

Wilder-Ortiz 2 has enough energy behind it to carry a PPV, and once Wilder breaks through, The Deontay Wilder Show (Wilder-TBA) becomes a likely PPV attraction for however much longer he stays champion.

[Heru]

The Fury fight is a great move, ONLY if Wilder wins convincingly and the event is a success (+200-300K PPV sales in the US for Wilder's 1st PPV).

Wilder's team made a great business decision, not taking the Joshua fight for what Hearn offered, but they made a serious miscalculation taking the Fury fight (they should've fought Brezeale). From my analysis, Fury's going to win or lose controversially; either way, he's going to frustrate Wilder and it won't look good for him.

[The plunger man]

Wilder does need to be reasonable but so does team an. And to be honest 50% is more reasonable than 20 flat. But money shouldn't be a hold up. Aj is on record saying he doesn't care about money. Wilder brings more to the table than given credit. But I'm not into their financials, I have a hard of enough time trying to keep up with mine......youre last point, no question Aj is more technically sound, but what he lacks will play in to wilder strengths

wilders faults will almost certainly play into Joshua’s as well...clean straight and counters with power...we are not talking about a Spilka or Washington here...we’re talking about the technically hardest punching heavyweight in the world who if wilder lunges in arms flailing everywhere and misses will get countered put to sleep quickly and clinically.
Wilder was getting knocked out by Ortiz if it was not for extra help from the ref even when he had a minute to recover...he won’t be so lucky with Joshua when he finally faces him