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  • Boksfan
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    #31
    Originally posted by DaNeutral.
    Hey dont forget Joshua is getting milked like a real fool by a white man, Eddie Hearn. While Wilder is being very well looked after and bringing in the big bucks thanks to his 59 managers. Including well known black men Finkel and DiBella.
    Oh man that's gonna burn

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    • The plunger man
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      #32
      Originally posted by NachoMan
      I disagree. Your logic and scenario is predicated on extrapolating the current situation for years on end, but that's not going to happen. Hearn can only protect AJ for so long (one more fight) before he has to step up. Also, the notion that Wilder is going to go back to being a $2M fighter is silly. He is going to be a boxing superstar in a week. His reputation and record will speak for themselves and, more importantly, he will be known as the guy who scares the **** out of the "other" HW champion.
      before he has to step up ? Are you taking the piss gumbo.
      Joshua has beaten klitchcko,povetkin,parker,whyte
      Wilder has beaten ortiz,spilka,washington,stiverne,duhaupas.
      Your another idiot who should sit in the corner of the classroom with a dunce hat on lol

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      • Corelone
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        #33
        Fury owns AJ, every one of those titles belonged to him and everybody AJ beat, Fury would beat too. The fact that Fury is fighting Wilder let's you know who the real champ is. AJ ran and hid, he's hiding in his bedroom, but his fans make out like he's the wizard of Oz pulling strings while sits in the closet.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Lopez_Boxing
          There's no way he can keep wilder on ice if he wants to continue to pull that kind of revenue. The public is going to demand he fight wilder or he will tarnish is rep and lose credibility and popularity. Because I can tell you one thing the GO doesn't care or know about revenue or percentage, they just care the fight get made. Aj needs to step up. Wilder isn't some contender, wilder a champion. And worse for aj wilder is an American. So it's going to go from AJ not making the fight happen to just plain avoiding it in the people's eyes. The British aren't going to ride for a guy that s not KOg the "yank". Thats a tougb prideful colture win or lose they will expect AJ to do his part to make the fight and prove he's the best HW
          Originally posted by NachoMan
          I disagree. Your logic is predicated on extrapolating the current situation for years on end, but that's not going to happen. Hearn can only protect AJ for so long (one more fight) before he has to step up. Also, the notion that Wilder is going to go back to being a $2M fighter is silly. He is going to be a boxing superstar in a week. His reputation and record will speak for themselves and, more importantly, he will be known as the guy who scares the **** out of the "other" HW champion.
          AJ only has 22 fights and already has several bigger names on his resume. Realistically, he can fight Miller, Ortiz, either of the Fury Bros. and maybe even rematch Wlad if he decides to come back again. There are four or five fights he can make and earn over $100M in the next two years.

          Wilder on the other hand, has twice as many fights and only two recognized opponents, Ortiz and Fury. If he fights any of the guys I listed above, as well as Whyte, Breazeale or Parker, he still only earns a total of about $20 - 25M if he's lucky.

          Like I said, AJ is young, has half as many fights and is a huge earner. He doesn't need Wilder if his end-game is money. For legacy yes, but if big pay days are his primary focus, he's all set for the next 4 or 5 fights without Wilder.

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            #35
            Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
            AJ only has 22 fights and already has several bigger names on his resume. Realistically, he can fight Miller, Ortiz, either of the Fury Bros. and maybe even rematch Wlad if he decides to come back again. There are four or five fights he can make and earn over $100M in the next two years.

            Wilder on the other hand, has twice as many fights and only two recognized opponents, Ortiz and Fury. If he fights any of the guys I listed above, as well as Whyte, Breazeale or Parker, he still only earns a total of about $20 - 25M if he's lucky.

            Like I said, AJ is young, has half as many fights and is a huge earner. He doesn't need Wilder if his end-game is money. For legacy yes, but if big pay days are his primary focus, he's all set for the next 4 or 5 fights without Wilder.

            But no one wants to see him fight those guys. If wilder wants to fight NOW Then that’s when the fans want it to happen. And for your last paragraph it’s funny you say “if his end game is money” because Joshua himself said it wasn’t. That’s why he turned down the $50 mil. So if he keeps fighting guys for money then he is doubling down on his word. That’s things the public won’t settle for. Mayweather and pacquiao are both still labeled as ducks for their reasons for not making the fight sooner. “Afraid of needles” “health comes first” etc. . Ducking and quiting follows you forever. Ri**** Bowe will be remembered for throwing his belt away before anything else. Duran no mas. That’s just the way it is in this sport. Will he lose all his fans. No. But his fan base will dwindle. No one wants to back the “duck”. And if he starts fighting other guys while wilder is screaming for a fight, then that’s exactly what people will start to think of AJ. Canelo lost fans when he relinquished the WBC belt, mayweather, pacquiao lost them to. And those guys had already cemented their legacy’s at that point. Aj will not be immune. If he avoids wilder his legacy will be tarnished before he even has the chance to complete it

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              #36
              Originally posted by Lopez_Boxing
              Haha no cone on man. That guy is speaking from emotion as a fan not from logic as a man
              I was being sarcastic. It's hard over the Internet. Lol

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                #37
                Wolder was saved by the ref in that fight and Ortiz was screwed. Ortiz was knocking this guy out.

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                • Lopez_Boxing
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by The plunger man
                  before he has to step up ? Are you taking the piss gumbo.
                  Joshua has beaten klitchcko,povetkin,parker,whyte
                  Wilder has beaten ortiz,spilka,washington,stiverne,duhaupas.
                  Your another idiot who should sit in the corner of the classroom with a dunce hat on lol
                  I believe he just meant step up to fight wilder. The public has a short attention span and is very impatient. The brits won’t take kindly to the fact their heavyweight champ will be globally recognized as the guy that’s afraid to fight and avoiding the “wind milling yank”. Canelo lost a lot of country support when he gave up the wbc. England had a rich And Prestigious history in boxing. I don’t think they will stand for AJ not stepping in the ring with the “bum” wilder. I could be wrong, I’m not English, but I do know the boxing fan base. One of the best in my opinion. They stand behind their guy win or lose as long as they gave it their all. AJ is going to have to try

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                  • Scipio2009
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by James Hunt
                    Yea, I can see. Half of the Staples Center still not sold out and PPV will also flop. Or is Deyonce maybe trying to say he needs AJ, not that washed up Gypsy Clown, to see the "megabucks in America"?

                    Deyonce vs Gypsy Clown: 100.000 PPV's (+/- 10.000)

                    btw, take Joshua out of your ******ed mouth and try to sell your flop "fight" on your own.
                    Look at the seating chart on AXS.com; not going to chase down every dot, but there are maybe 2000-3000 tickets remaining for sale. lol

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                    • The plunger man
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Lopez_Boxing
                      I believe he just meant step up to fight wilder. The public has a short attention span and is very impatient. The brits won’t take kindly to the fact their heavyweight champ will be globally recognized as the guy that’s afraid to fight and avoiding the “wind milling yank”. Canelo lost a lot of country support when he gave up the wbc. England had a rich And Prestigious history in boxing. I don’t think they will stand for AJ not stepping in the ring with the “bum” wilder. I could be wrong, I’m not English, but I do know the boxing fan base. One of the best in my opinion. They stand behind their guy win or lose as long as they gave it their all. AJ is going to have to try
                      the offer is on the table for wilder in april in wembley for more money than he is ever likely to earn.....the fury fight will certainly not earn him the $20 million he has been offered to sign to fight joshua.
                      When the wilder fury fight lowballs and makes less than 300k buys i'm curious how wilders team can spin it.
                      Joshua has consistently beaten better and better opponents and klitchcko and povetkin i believe would have knocked wilder into tomorrow.
                      Wilder needs to be reasonable with his demands and the fight will get made....if he keeps on asking for 50% and he is not bringing equal amounts to the table then its wilders own doing if the fight don't get made.
                      I think you know deep down joshua will put one on wilder if the fight takes place...joshua has proven time and time again he will beat world class opponents....that will continue when he knocks wilder out

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