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  • _Rexy_
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    #11
    Originally posted by SteveM
    Tell that to Stiverne, Wilder closed a 4-5 foot gap in half a second to land a socking, guard-splitting, straight right plush on Bermaine's chin.
    He illegally teleported. Everyone knows that.

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    • Andrij
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      #12
      Originally posted by SteveM
      Tell that to Stiverne, Wilder closed a 4-5 foot gap in half a second to land a socking, guard-splitting, straight right plush on Bermaine's chin.
      You are aware that Stiverne was overweight, slow and 40 when he fought Wilder in the rematch ? Plus Stiverne didn't move at all.

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      • Andrij
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        #13
        Originally posted by el***
        This is a big concern of mine for Wilder, if the KO doesnt ever come I think he will be behind on points.


        Wilder usually head hunts, he would make this easier if he went to the body, he wouldnt have to worry about the furys small head, his 6'9'' body is a bigger target, its easier to reach and it has the added benefit of breaking him down over the rounds so he will be less mobile, theres no way Fury's body could withstand an attack with Wilder's power after the abuse he put it through.


        I dont know that Wilder and his corner is smart enough to strategize like that.

        Fury doesnt really have to strategize, if he fights the same strategy and fight he did vs Wladimir, that is exactly what he wants to do against Wilder, so I know thats what he will be prepared to do. Move a lot, throw arm punches to score, keep ahead on points and conserve energy. Only thing that could fail is if he fatigues faster than he did in 2015 from all the abuse on his body, if he gets too tired to move, he could get caught.
        Team Wilder worked on body shots during training camp.Watch both episodes of All Access and there you can see it.

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        • thack
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          #14
          I hope this will bring the best out in these two fighters but hat's off to the pair of them in these days where the promoter is shyting himself to dare let them in the same room(unless he gets ALL the money!).......... someone's 'o' must go !

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          • kafkod
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            #15
            Originally posted by SteveM
            Tell that to Stiverne, Wilder closed a 4-5 foot gap in half a second to land a socking, guard-splitting, straight right plush on Bermaine's chin.
            Originally posted by Andrij
            You are aware that Stiverne was overweight, slow and 40 when he fought Wilder in the rematch ? Plus Stiverne didn't move at all.
            Unless Fury's reflexes are shot from drugs and booze, Wilder may as well send him an email as take a half second run up with a punch and expect it to land!

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            • SteveM
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              #16
              Originally posted by Andrij
              You are aware that Stiverne was overweight, slow and 40 when he fought Wilder in the rematch ? Plus Stiverne didn't move at all.
              He was 39, he was always out of shape anyway and who can say he was slow? ... he only lasted a round!!

              But you missed the point. O.P stated that Wilder's wide stance is a disadvantage and I'm saying no it isn't - not when you can close large distance in half a second because of your athleticism.

              Can Fury react given half a second's time to react. Yes! Can he get out of the way? Yes!

              Will he always avoid every hard right during 36 minutes of action? Imo - No!

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              • SteveM
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                #17
                Originally posted by kafkod
                Unless Fury's reflexes are shot from drugs and booze, Wilder may as well send him an email as take a half second run up with a punch and expect it to land!
                Fury has been inactive for 3 years bar 2 very low-key fights. He abused his body badly. If he's doing VADA now then he is not getting any advantage from peds, if he was before. Plus he has come down in weight rapidly. Losing 130lbs in 8 months is rapid weight loss - basically lost close to a 1/3 of his body weight.

                There's 4 factors right there that individually might not mean much but taken together probably mean Fury will tire considerably in later rounds - especially if Wilder has invested in the body which he should but who knows if he will.

                As Fury tires so his reaction time will go down. I want Fury to win but I suspect he'll be stopped or pulled out in the second half.

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                • JWHardin
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by _Rexy_
                  He illegally teleported. Everyone knows that.
                  That's just not fair.

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                  • Lopez_Boxing
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by kafkod
                    Unless Fury's reflexes are shot from drugs and booze, Wilder may as well send him an email as take a half second run up with a punch and expect it to land!
                    How much usage of drugs and alcohol does it take to diminish ones reflex. What ever the amount I'm sure fury is no where near that.

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                    • Andrij
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Lopez_Boxing
                      How much usage of drugs and alcohol does it take to diminish ones reflex. What ever the amount I'm sure fury is no where near that.
                      At least Fury looked great in sparring thats what Nelson heard from sources.

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