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  • Originally posted by Laligalaliga View Post
    I am not dis*****g that and believe you men not in this case.

    When they promoted a 100mil fight, they were the A side but sorry to disappoint you, in this match up, they are the Best side. So it's out of their hands to promote this fight.

    Their only functions as far this match up is concerned is to receive contracts not send.
    The A side is the side that dictates the terms.

    In this case, there IS no clear A side.

    The match can be in Britain promoted by Hearn or in the US promoted by Finkel/Haymon.

    A 50M guarantee would not be given only to allow Hearn to be the principal promoter, don't be foolish.

    And I trust you are now convinced you have zero rebuttal to the fact that it was a valid offer.

    Ask yourself this: Why would guys involve in every successful 100M dollar fight since 2007 have a problem anteing up 50M?

    The answer is, they wouldn't.

    Everyone in boxing knows the 50M was legit.

    Hearn really had no choice to cast aspersions at it because if he didn't he would have to give a better answer as to why he and AJ turned it down.

    It's the same reason Hearn is throwing all types of shade at the Fury-Wilder fight, talking about tickets not sold or how bad it is going to do as far as PPV buys.

    I got news for you.

    The fight (along with other PBC events) was advertised at EVERY NFL GAME YESTERDAY DURING THE HOLIDAY.

    Hundreds of millions saw them. Millions now know about the ALL ACCESS too.

    Should the Dec 1 fight do as well as I think it will, any thoughts of AJ being an A side based on money are going to be done with that night.

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    • Originally posted by koolkc107 View Post
      The A side is the side that dictates the terms.

      In this case, there IS no clear A side.

      The match can be in Britain promoted by Hearn or in the US promoted by Finkel/Haymon.

      A 50M guarantee would not be given only to allow Hearn to be the principal promoter, don't be foolish.

      And I trust you are now convinced you have zero rebuttal to the fact that it was a valid offer.

      Ask yourself this: Why would guys involve in every successful 100M dollar fight since 2007 have a problem anteing up 50M?

      The answer is, they wouldn't.

      Everyone in boxing knows the 50M was legit.

      Hearn really had no choice to cast aspersions at it because if he didn't he would have to give a better answer as to why he and AJ turned it down.

      It's the same reason Hearn is throwing all types of shade at the Fury-Wilder fight, talking about tickets not sold or how bad it is going to do as far as PPV buys.

      I got news for you.

      The fight (along with other PBC events) was advertised at EVERY NFL GAME YESTERDAY DURING THE HOLIDAY.

      Hundreds of millions saw them. Millions now know about the ALL ACCESS too.

      Should the Dec 1 fight do as well as I think it will, any thoughts of AJ being an A side based on money are going to be done with that night.
      They have to first accept that they are the B side, then we can make progress.

      The B side is far far behind in everything that can give then ground to negotiate.

      Ppv, regular pay, popularity, attendance etc. They are far behind. So they are far B side.
      End of.

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      • Originally posted by Laligalaliga View Post
        They have to first accept that they are the B side, then we can make progress.

        The B side is far far behind in everything that can give then ground to negotiate.

        Ppv, regular pay, popularity, attendance etc. They are far behind. So they are far B side.
        End of.
        50M- which BTW is still on the table- says different.

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        • Originally posted by koolkc107 View Post
          50M- which BTW is still on the table- says different.
          Don't be deluded. 50mil still cannot make wilder the A side.

          Hez a far B side, not even close.
          Your argument is dead in arrival.

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          • Originally posted by Laligalaliga View Post
            Don't be deluded. 50mil still cannot make wilder the A side.

            Hez a far B side, not even close.
            Your argument is dead in arrival.
            A-side is the side than dictates the terms and controls the promotion.

            That would certainly be Wilder if the 50M was accepted.

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            • Originally posted by Ray* View Post
              Because most of them are fanatics. From the fake phantom 50m dollars offer with no meeting to rejecting two contracts that represent 5 times his usual payday, to taking 39 fights to actually fight a threat. Compare to a guy who did all of that in half that time and fights, to a guy who actually took the risk and earns ten times what Wilder earn. If you sit there and call Joshua a duck with all the evidence in front of you then you are a fanatical fanboy.
              1. I hate Wilder. He's fought 90% (accurate math) bums.
              2. There is video of Hearn admitting the 50 million was legit.
              3. How do you know what Wilder's usual pay is? Registered purses only spell a portion of the sum.

              AJ is a duck, I said it. How does that figure into your equation?

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              • Originally posted by McManus View Post
                1. I hate Wilder. He's fought 90% (accurate math) bums.
                2. There is video of Hearn admitting the 50 million was legit.
                3. How do you know what Wilder's usual pay is? Registered purses only spell a portion of the sum.

                AJ is a duck, I said it. How does that figure into your equation?
                (1) I like Wilder but his resume up to Ortiz has been terrible.
                (2) There is a video of Hearn saying that wasn’t true, all he had was an email Fromm wilder himself that says that have the 50m. He then request a meeting and that was refused (The third meeting that was refused).
                (3) I couldn’t careless what portion of his wages wasn’t registered am going with what we know has been filed for him. Even if they “Hide” his money they can’t hide more than 20% of it. And no one hides money and then tell everyone I earn more than what’s filed but am “Hiding this from the taxman.

                Wilder is a duck according your equation.

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                • He ducked chance to be considered lineal champ in beating wilder.
                  Fury gave him chance but didn't want it.
                  So fury is still lineal. Wilder might have easy chance to beat fury as he will ever get but it's Josh fault.

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                  • Originally posted by Ray* View Post
                    (2) There is a video of Hearn saying that wasn’t true, all he had was an email Fromm wilder himself that says that have the 50m. He then request a meeting and that was refused (The third meeting that was refused).
                    There is video of Hearn saying the 50M was legit.

                    I can't find the video because of IFL TV making 30 minute video's without proper labeling. Link proof for now:

                    "Hearn and Joshua wanted to proof of funds - which they apparently received from Wilder co-manager Shelly Finkel."

                    https://www.boxingscene.com/joshua-w...e-deal--127770
                    Last edited by McNulty; 11-24-2018, 02:49 PM.

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                    • Originally posted by koolkc107 View Post
                      50M- which BTW is still on the table- says different.
                      Where is the contract ?

                      There was nothing just social media rubbish

                      All you have is social media posts

                      When a team can’t even proceed a contract, it shows they are liars and all talk

                      Team wilder ducked Joshua and got caught in a lying fake news mess and they got out of it by destroying the fight being made

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