How does a unified champion with 4 belts in 22 fights get called a duck?

[E-Thug]

I just want to know why it took Wilder TWICE as many fights to get to the point where Joshua was in HALF the fights.

They are fanboys. They are the worst fanbase in the sport, bar none. Hypocritical, gullible and naive.

Team Wilder are aware of it too. That's why they can afford to come up with their ridiculous statements and don't get sh#t for it. They know their fanbase consist of emotional manbabies with double digit IQs who eat up every word Wilder and Finkel say.

Joshua beat Wladimir Klitschko for one of his belts. The same Wladimir Klitschko who is one of the greatest HW champions of all time and who Wilder's team desperately kept him away from. Why was Wilder content to fight 30 bums in a row before stepping up??
Why did a 18 fight novice like Joshua fight Klitschko and Wilder never did?

No Wilder fan will ever answer this properly. People arguing about 50 mil this and Eddie Hearn that but what's Wilder done before all of this.

Joshua is younger than Wilder, turned pro later than Wilder and in pretty much half the pro fights Wilder has had, he's unified 3 out of the 4 titles. What the **** was Wilder doing all of that time?

They **** on Wlad saying he was old when Joshua beat him yet praise Ortiz for losing to Wilder. Facts are an old Wlad is a greater and better fighter than Ortiz.

I genuinely want to hear a rational excuse as to why it took Wilder 38 odd fights to step up

[CrowsNestWest]

Aj

How is somebody with that credible of resume even allowed to be dissed? How can the public be so easily misled to eat up that narrative? And i'm not even dissing Wilder because I like Wilder too. The guy has fought 4 of the top 10 fighters in 22 fights. Like no one besides Loma and Usyk can say they've done that and those guys had more than 350 amateur fights compared to Joshua's 43. Wlad, Dillian Whyte, Povetkin, Joseph Parker, and he was scheduled to fight Pulev who pulled out of the fight. The only guy this dude has fought that wasn't in the top 20 was a replacement opponent in Takam.

It's not AJ's fault that Barry Hearn has said clearly he doesn't want him t fight Wilder yet. It ain't his fault that Refs have helped pad his KO %. It ain't his fault he beat 42YO Wlad, but also got knocked down by 42YO Wlad. It's not his fault that Eddie Hearn turned down the 50mil (Wilder proved he had the 50mil). Ain't AJ's fault he got his belts through a C Class Charles Martin. It ain't his fault that the only reason Parker lost to him was not throwing enough punches, but regardless of if it's his fault or not, I ain't seen him fight the scary HWs. Jarrell Miller, Wilder, Ortiz. None of 'em. 39YO Povetkin doesn't count either. It's unrealistic to say AJ is ducking Wilder, but it's almost obvious that Matchroom Boxing is.

[CrowsNestWest]

Aj

No Wilder fan will ever answer this properly. People arguing about 50 mil this and Eddie Hearn that but what's Wilder done before all of this.

Joshua is younger than Wilder, turned pro later than Wilder and in pretty much half the pro fights Wilder has had, he's unified 3 out of the 4 titles. What the **** was Wilder doing all of that time?

They **** on Wlad saying he was old when Joshua beat him yet praise Ortiz for losing to Wilder. Facts are an old Wlad is a greater and better fighter than Ortiz.

I genuinely want to hear a rational excuse as to why it took Wilder 38 odd fights to step up

1. Eddie Hearn turned down the 50 mil Wilder prooved he had
2. Barry Hearn said publicly he doesn't want AJ to fight Wilder yet
3. Brits get more hype, and more attention earlier in their careers
4. 38YO Luis Ortiz is a much fresher fighter than 42YO Wlad. There's no evidence that AJ vs Ortiz is not a 50-50 fight.

4. AJ has been gifted a handful of early stoppages (Takam)
All of Wilder's KOs are real KOs or TKOs.

5. AJ is considering fighting a Cruiserweight for his 2nd fight of 2019.

[billeau2]

I think people could take a page from "Juggernaught 666." Some like him, some not so much, but when posting about a fighter, I seldom hear him say something about management, unless it is to debunk a crazed idea.

Instead...and I am using him as an example, because I know he likes AJ, he talks about skill. Observable behavior in the ring, observed under different conditons that make a fighter skilled. The reason this is an admirable quality is because people have no idea about how management operates regarding the currency of a particular offer, who wants/does not want to fight a particular opponent, etc...

I can virtually guarantee that if I met Aj and Wilder and they both started talking crap to each other, neither man would suddenly lay a fat one in their pants, turn whiter than myself and beg for a pass...FIGHTERS LIKE TO FIGHT. Look it up. I spent many years training in a fighting club and do not like to fight... So I know the difference I speak of.

In any management team there are decision makers who are risk adverse and do not want to take any unnecessary risks. This, I can assure you...is not the fighter!

So people need to understand that from the perspective of all these fighters, they believe they would knock out anyone across the ring from them, and want to fight the best. I don't blame the fighters, its management.

[Boxingfan8888]

Wilder fans are the joke of boxing

They support a guy who ducked

Klitschko, Whyte, povetkin and aj

They refuse to see the basics of him not proving a contract

They refuse to see how he was also cared for like a new born baby protected and given a paper belt by Haymon

[Curt Henning]

i love watching the AJ fans squirm while WBC schools them over and over with facts and truth

your boy turned down 50 mil to fight in the states...then wilder took a lowball deal to fight in the UK if it was next...and AJ still ran to fight an old, washed up povetkin

LOL....now hes talkin about a whyte rematch or usyk or whatever other name hearn can come up with avoid wilder LOL

[Curt Henning]

No Wilder fan will ever answer this properly. People arguing about 50 mil this and Eddie Hearn that but what's Wilder done before all of this.

Joshua is younger than Wilder, turned pro later than Wilder and in pretty much half the pro fights Wilder has had, he's unified 3 out of the 4 titles. What the **** was Wilder doing all of that time?

They **** on Wlad saying he was old when Joshua beat him yet praise Ortiz for losing to Wilder. Facts are an old Wlad is a greater and better fighter than Ortiz.

I genuinely want to hear a rational excuse as to why it took Wilder 38 odd fights to step up

two things here

1. what wilder WAS doing "all of that time" means jack **** now chief....the fact of the matter is both are champions now and the time is now for that fight....

2. as someone else mentioned in this thread...wilder had to slowly build a name for himself...he didnt have the advantages that joshua had....wilder didnt turn pro with a big promoter or tv deal....he was fighting in high school gyms to start his career...

3. no old wlad aint no better fighter than ortiz...lol....but you can keep going around saying it as if its true...its no sweat off my back....

you dont wanna talk about the 50 mil because you slurp AJs raisin nuts...if i was an AJ fan i wouldnt wanna talk about it either...cause even after AJ rejected that wilder said hed go to uk and take their crap offer...and AJ still ran to povetkin(you know another old washed up 40 year old that pissed dirty to avoid wilder)

[Laligalaliga]

One belt came from a guy who won it due to his opponent injuring himself in the fight.

Two belts were vacants, thrown in to further hype a fight with a 40 year old coming off a 2 year layoff.

One belt came from a snore fest against a champion who just might not have been as good as some thought.

Careful management to 4 belts doesn't mean the fighter is proven, especially when only one of them came in the ring vs a legit beltholder.

So, when folk hear that this 4 belt guy turned down a guaranteed 50 Million or that the 4 belt guy is lowballing the guy he probably should be paying the most of any of his championship fight opponents (since it will be THE biggest most lucrative fight either guy has ever had), well then...some folks might get the idea that 4 belt guy doesn't really want the fight, or at least his management doesn't.

Lolx..... Very funny analysis that makes you look ******. But the wolve could only manage one belt despite having 50mil in his wallet.

Go get a life bro. You really need a beer

[Laligalaliga]

I don't understand ducking a guy and still send him contracts and improved contracts. It takes two to tangle. Wilder boys are just full of ego, they know the truth and facts, just covering face. I don't give a hook about them.

As I write now, the contract is still on wilder 's table, so what's their argument?

[Laligalaliga]

Wlad was 40 and with zero belts when AJ fought him. And Wlad chose to fight AJ first when he could have definitely fought Deontay first instead. I don't blame Wlad because the risk vs reward kinda dictated AJ, the easier fighter with more money to offer.

These are mere excuses, wilder was never going to fight wlad, no matter how hard you try to argue it. Hez always shook at the sight of wlad, simple.