Where does AJ rank if he beats Wilder then Usyk?

[Boksfan]

Would those wins be better than Ortiz loss to Wilder? I doubt it. That loss really cemented his legacy.

Definitely Ortiz ATG after that knockout lost.

[iamboxing]

I almost punched the screen reading this. About time I ****ing logged off.

[Earl-Hickey]

Are you serious? I think it's comments like this which do no justice to the British fan base lol

He will start knocking on the door for HOF

"Knocking on the door for hall of fame"

Lol hed be undefeated undisputed and lineal heavyweight champion

Hed be a first ballot HOF at worst

[sunny31]

"Knocking on the door for hall of fame"

Lol hed be undefeated undisputed and lineal heavyweight champion

Hed be a first ballot HOF at worst

No, as of today he would def not get in. A win over Wilder who is not considered a great heavyweight and Usyk who is a great cruiserweight but yet to prove he can make the jump, wouldn't necessarily push Joshua over the top. But it would certainly put him close either way. If you put those wins in followed by longevity at the top then yes he would prob be first ballot. Also if those guys went on to have more success at heavyweight then that would further solidify his claim, but it's not as you perceive it, honestly, or at least I disagree with you. Your assertion that he could be considered a top10 ATG heavyweight after those wins is preposterous at best.

[Sid-Knee]

Are you serious? I think it's comments like this which do no justice to the British fan base lol

He will start knocking on the door for HOF

Foreman is considered an ATG with only 4 good wins in his career. Frazier with only 2. Marciano is usually put in the top 10 of greatest fighters in history P4P. Ali is considered the greatest even though he lost most of his fights against very low skilled fighters but got continuous gifts. The fighters he did beat are so brutally overrated it isn't even funny. Liston beat no one, but is considered an ATG.

Look at the crazy American fan base before you go judging. No one horribly overrates the way you guys do. Basic, ordinary fighters with **** resumes being cast of as the greatest of the great. Haha.

[BLASTER1]

ATG no.
HOF yes in my opinion.
At the moment their just aren't enough good heavyweights that he can fight to be judged an ATG.
Hoping some good prospects come thru and change the landscape of heavyweight.

[Sid-Knee]

I don't think so. He still had a close fight with Parker who isn't that good and a very old Wlad damn near knocked him out. Two wins over good fighters don't make some of his weaker showings go away. He would need lots of good wins to show he has improved a lot. A boxer is judged as an all time great based on all the fights he had in his prime including his worst fights and not just two good wins.

The Parker fight in which Joshua dominated against a fighter who disengaged and ran all night was close?

I think you should stop scoring fights my man.

[Sid-Knee]

Higher than that Canadian Lewis, that's for sure.

Joshua would never come close to having even a third of Lewis' wins. The Brit Lewis was in a much superior era. Not even close.

[4truth]

This discussion is many wins and many years premature.

[Boksfan]

Joshua would never come close to having even a third of Lewis' wins. The Brit Lewis was in a much superior era. Not even close.

You are deluded