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  • Bardamu
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    #51
    Originally posted by NachoMan
    I tend to agree with your general sentiment that the sport has been impacted by the "Mayweather effect." Athletes are seeing the business side of this sport more clearly than ever before, but I don't think this is a completely new phenomenon. Fighters from the last generations also sought the best money for the easiest fights. They had promoters after all. ODLH, as much as I liked him, was incessantly criticized for building his early resume on big names who were either too old or too small. Oscar was also justifiably criticized for ducking Winky Wright back when Winky was taking names.
    Floyd agreed to fight Zab when Zab was undisputed ww champ and considered a truly elite opponent. Then Baldomir was the guy who beat Zab.
    Oscar was top dog at 154. Everyone cried Floyd was ducking Hatton and that Hatton would beat him. Marquez was fighting at 140 and was a top 3 p4p fighter. Mosley was the top ranked ww. Cotto was the top ranked 154. Guerrero was multi-division champ, top 10 p4p, in his prime, and the top ranked ww willing to fight him. Ortiz was considered the top ww willing to face Floyd at the time they fought. Canelo was the top guy at 154. Floyd set up a poll on his own site and that said he should fight Khan. Numerous other polls showed the overwhelming majority wanted Floyd to fight Maidana instead.

    Floyd ONLY fought the best for an entire decade. And that was after winning titles at 130, 135, and 140. That is why Mayweather made so much money. Because he only fought the best.

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    • Bronx2245
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      #52
      Originally posted by Fabes88
      Lol I don’t think the wbc enforced anything. If haymon porter etc wanted the unification enough it would happen.
      I think Porter didn't want that smoke too, but the WBC has been silent so far! If it's true, that they forced a mandatory over a unification bout, then they better be consistent with Canelo!

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      • Bardamu
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        #53
        Originally posted by Jsmooth9876
        Spence has 24 fights.
        He did Vada testing one time because Brook made sure he did.
        Maybe those guys are juicing who the fk knows. I know when a guy is coming up 2 divisions to fight you, that guy should expect a clean fight.

        Loma did vada for linares which was his last fight. And Crawford did also for his last fight. So here we are........
        Spence might still do VADA testing for Mikey. Also, the testing for a single fight is better than nothing, but that doesn't do too much.

        Crawford fought a while ago, and can be using all the peds he wants to right now. When fighters only fight once every six months, they can easily juice for 4 months straight, quit for two months before a fight, and then juice for another 4 months.

        Spence should do VADA testing, I agree with that. But it is extremely hypocritical to make post insinuating Spence is juicing because he isn't in the CBP.

        I also, do not believe Crawford did VADA for his fight with Horn. Why not?

        Why did you not make posts claiming Bud is juicing? It is because you are a fanboy and a hater. I think Horn should have known if his opponent was clean. But he didn't, because Bud didn't want to. I guess to fight someone his own size, TC needed some help. lol.

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        • NachoMan
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          #54
          Originally posted by Bardamu
          Floyd agreed to fight Zab when Zab was undisputed ww champ and considered a truly elite opponent. Then Baldomir was the guy who beat Zab.
          Oscar was top dog at 154. Everyone cried Floyd was ducking Hatton and that Hatton would beat him. Marquez was fighting at 140 and was a top 3 p4p fighter. Mosley was the top ranked ww. Cotto was the top ranked 154. Guerrero was multi-division champ, top 10 p4p, in his prime, and the top ranked ww willing to fight him. Ortiz was considered the top ww willing to face Floyd at the time they fought. Canelo was the top guy at 154. Floyd set up a poll on his own site and that said he should fight Khan. Numerous other polls showed the overwhelming majority wanted Floyd to fight Maidana instead.

          Floyd ONLY fought the best for an entire decade. And that was after winning titles at 130, 135, and 140. That is why Mayweather made so much money. Because he only fought the best.
          So, my comment about the "Mayweather Effect" was not so much a jab at Floyd or an accusation of ducking. I mean to say that Floyd's success has a lot of fighters thinking more about their bottom line than their fight legacy. Floyd fought a lot of great names. The only fighter that I know for sure (zero doubt) that Floyd ducked was a prime Pacquiao. I think he sort of avoided a younger Mosley, Paul Williams and Winky Wright too, but I wouldn't call those clear ducks. Floyd wasn't afraid of those guys and would have fought them if they were the absolute top fights to make monetarily.

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          • Jrtxboiy
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            #55
            You can't be that ******

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            • BigStomps
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              #56
              Originally posted by Fabes88
              Don’t get it twisted he’s stepping up because he has nothing to lose rather than staying at lightweight and potentially losing to a smaller man in lomachenko.
              He has nothing to lose???
              You don't know shet about boxing if you really believe that!
              If Mikey really wanted a soft touch at welterweight he could of fought Pacquiao for more money and a higher chance of winning don't you think???
              And there's no shame in losing to Lomachenko. He is a greater fighter regardless of what people say.
              Mikey stepped up cause he wants to prove himself against the best, that's all there is to it!

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              • BigStomps
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                #57
                Originally posted by DJrabit
                Porter has a better resume than Spencer. Spencer best opponent brooks and a over the hill Patterson. Mickey is moving up to avoid Loma.
                LoL, you really don't know shet about boxing!
                Yeah Mikey is fighting Spence cause he's afraid of Loma,... 🤣
                Haters like you will always find a reason to shet on a fighter.

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                • Bardamu
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Jsmooth9876
                  Spence has 24 fights.
                  He did Vada testing one time because Brook made sure he did.
                  Maybe those guys are juicing who the fk knows. I know when a guy is coming up 2 divisions to fight you, that guy should expect a clean fight.

                  Loma did vada for linares which was his last fight. And Crawford did also for his last fight. So here we are........
                  Loma has never been in the CBP. Loma isn't using VADA for his fight that is just next month.

                  Why don't you bring that up? Why is it when Spence isn't enrolled in VADA you continually post about it, insinuating he is juicing? Yet, when Loma or any other world class level fighter doesn't use VADA you NEVER mention it???

                  Loma isn't using VADA for his fight in less than a month. So here we are...….

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                  • Bardamu
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by BigStomps
                    LoL, you really don't know shet about boxing!
                    Yeah Mikey is fighting Spence cause he's afraid of Loma,... 🤣
                    Haters like you will always find a reason to shet on a fighter.

                    You can tell he doesn't know anything about boxing because he doesn't even know the fighters' names. It is Spence, not Spencer. And it is Brook, not Brooks.

                    I could understand getting Brook wrong, but anyone that knows anything about boxing, knows it isn't Spencer.

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                    • Eff Pandas
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by larryxxx..
                      you could have easily made the fight with Spence
                      This like a mfer.

                      You can't openly say you don't want to fight a title holder & then win a vacant title & think you are even with the guy who wanted to give you a shot. Danny & Shawn both coulda fought Errol if they wanted to go for greatness or "yards" as Porter is putting it.

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