Andre Ward would be a legit threat to Usyk...

[kafkod]

Who are the "many people" that thought Bute was better than Ward?...Bute needed help from the referee when Andrade knocked his ass out!...

Excuses are excuses and facts are facts.

At 168, Ward wouldn't fight Bute for the IBF title, even though Bute offered to come to Oakland for him, and he never even tried to fight Stieglitz for the WBO.

He also turned down offers to fight Adonis Stevenson at 168 and ignored call outs by Stevenson to unify at 175.

Ward was never undisputed champion at either 168 or 175.

[dukesville]

Excuses are excuses and facts are facts.

At 168, Ward wouldn't fight Bute for the IBF title, even though Bute offered to come to Oakland for him, and he never even tried to fight Stieglitz for the WBO.

He also turned down offers to fight Adonis Stevenson at 168 and ignored call outs by Stevenson to unify at 175.

Ward was never undisputed champion at either 168 or 175.

Ill repeat the question...who are the "many people" that thought Bute was better than Ward? As for all your assumptions, maybe if Bute hadn't got knocked out by Froch a guy Ward had already beat they would have fought. Try to fight Stieglitz you say? Well, maybe if Stieglitz hadn't got whooped by Abraham whom Ward had also already beat Ward would have fought him. And facts are facts as you say, and its a fact that, that ref saved Bute and stole a ko from Andrade by giving Bute a 15 + count and then walking him to his corner so he wouldn't fall again. All kinds of rules got broken to help Bute keep his 0. Bute better than Ward? GTFOH!

[Earl-Hickey]

Ill repeat the question...who are the "many people" that thought Bute was better than Ward? As for all your assumptions, maybe if Bute hadn't got knocked out by Froch a guy Ward had already beat they would have fought. Try to fight Stieglitz you say? Well, maybe if Stieglitz hadn't got whooped by Abraham whom Ward had also already beat Ward would have fought him. And facts are facts as you say, and its a fact that, that ref saved Bute and stole a ko from Andrade by giving Bute a 15 + count and then walking him to his corner so he wouldn't fall again. All kinds of rules got broken to help Bute keep his 0. Bute better than Ward? GTFOH!

actually I do have to agree with him, it's hard to find them now because nobody will admit it but Bute had a lot of fans who said he was number 1 at 168 prior to the froch fight.

[dukesville]

actually I do have to agree with him, it's hard to find them now because nobody will admit it but Bute had a lot of fans who said he was number 1 at 168 prior to the froch fight.

Ok so it was a lot of Bute FANS...I bet there were a lot of Ward fans that disagreed. And why wouldn't they admit it now?

[Boxfan83]

Excuses are excuses and facts are facts.

At 168, Ward wouldn't fight Bute for the IBF title, even though Bute offered to come to Oakland for him, and he never even tried to fight Stieglitz for the WBO.

He also turned down offers to fight Adonis Stevenson at 168 and ignored call outs by Stevenson to unify at 175.

Ward was never undisputed champion at either 168 or 175.

It was a good thing a clean fighter like Ward didnt fight a steroid cheat like Bute.

[Boxfan83]

yeap, he is.
He needs a referee, 3 judges and to be able to bite Usyk in the balls and get praised for it.

F coWard.

#WardRuinsLives

[eco1]

#WardRuinsLives

Ward ruins balls.

And lost the first fight and was losing the 2nd until he resorted to go Way down, what a F A G

[Boxfan83]

Ward ruins balls.

And lost the first fight and was losing the 2nd until he resorted to go Way down, what a F A G

Thats pretty harsh Eco1...

[kafkod]

Ill repeat the question...who are the "many people" that thought Bute was better than Ward? As for all your assumptions, maybe if Bute hadn't got knocked out by Froch a guy Ward had already beat they would have fought. Try to fight Stieglitz you say? Well, maybe if Stieglitz hadn't got whooped by Abraham whom Ward had also already beat Ward would have fought him. And facts are facts as you say, and its a fact that, that ref saved Bute and stole a ko from Andrade by giving Bute a 15 + count and then walking him to his corner so he wouldn't fall again. All kinds of rules got broken to help Bute keep his 0. Bute better than Ward? GTFOH!

What the hell does it matter who it was that thought Bute was better than Ward? Maybe Ward and his manager did, because they definitely wanted no part of Bute, even in Oakland.

Maybe if Ward had fought Bute and Stieglitz he would have been an undisputed champion and you wouldn't need to be talking ****** shit about Abraham, Andrade, Froch, and refs giving 15 second counts in fights that Ward wasn't even involved in?

Usyk is an undisputed, unified champ and Ward isn't, wasn't, and never will be.

Just suck it up and swallow it.

[kafkod]

It was a good thing a clean fighter like Ward didnt fight a steroid cheat like Bute.

A clean fighter like Ward!

Now that's funny!