Andre Ward would be a legit threat to Usyk...

[evets]

Kov's is/was an excellent fighter. But never at the top of my P4P list. Hypothetically I do not see him even at the same weight better than Usyk. Now add 25lbs difference between K and Usyk, that would be a one sided fight.

Personally of the four most prominent Eastern Euros (since these guys all get lumped together) I think P4P here is how I would place them at their peak either now or in the past:

Usyk - I think what he does at his size is amazing.
Loma - he is great, but at his weight I don't think the gap in uniqueness is as vast as it is between Usyk and his opposition.
Golovkin - I like him much better than the two above but their movement offsets Golovkin's better P4P power.

Kovalev - excellent fighter but a level below the guys above. And Usyk and Loma might be a level above Golovkin. K is the kind of guy who could beat top notch fighters (like I believe he did Ward in the first fight) but I would put him just a level below.

Sorry my comment that was in regards top Eff saying Usyk is 3xKov in boxing skill only. Tehere's something wrong in thaat assessment. I can see where you get yours from though, cheers.

[Boxfan83]

lmao,

Usyk has the Ward blueprint.

Ward would break his hand punching Usyk.

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=797952

Ive heard that b4...

[FinitoxDinamita]

I think Ward is a bit more skilled. But Usyk is the bigger guy. Id favor Usyk as both are elite, and the biggest factor would probably be size.

Ward is in another stratosphere skillwise. Inside-outside and midrange game, he has it all. He is so much more skilled than Usyk.

Ward would kick his ass

[Boxfan83]

I think Usyk's a great fighter.

Even if I took your assessment. A man 25 pounds bigger that is good is almost always going to beat the smaller guy even if they are great.

If these two were the same size in their prime I think it would be a great fight.

I get the size difference and I am not saying u imparticular but others on this site & Bellew say Usyks a legit threat at HW and those guys are 50+lbs bigger. Wards 6'1" and has a wide frame. I can see ward carrying athleticism to the low mid 190s. Usyk size could drown Ward late but I think Ward would dictate a fast pace and use veteran moves to secure a win.

[daggum]

Ward is in another stratosphere skillwise. Inside-outside and midrange game, he has it all. He is so much more skilled than Usyk.

Ward would kick his ass

ward is not a skilled boxer hence why he has to constantly cheat and foul to keep up. you see the way he fights a brand to the way he fights a kovalev or kessler. fouling is not a skill. its called cheating and its politically driven to get the result they want hence why he refused to travel. SKILL SKILL SKILL LMAO if you think thats skill watching ward clinch wrestler nut puncher fight

[daggum]

I get the size difference and I am not saying u imparticular but others on this site & Bellew say Usyks a legit threat at HW and those guys are 50+lbs bigger. Wards 6'1" and has a wide frame. I can see ward carrying athleticism to the low mid 190s. Usyk size could drown Ward late but I think Ward would dictate a fast pace and use veteran moves to secure a win.

haha veteran moves. headbutts, low blows, wrestling, holding and hitting. these are known as fouls and cheating but thank you for acknowledging the only way ward can ever win is through not following the rules. even his own defenders now admit this. they can't even get away with the he would outbox him after the kovalev debacles. they know he has one way of winning. nonstop fouling. great fighter doe

[Diego Rodriguez]

Ward is in another stratosphere skillwise. Inside-outside and midrange game, he has it all. He is so much more skilled than Usyk.

Ward would kick his ass

I'm not a black and white guy . . . but you either don't know boxing or you got an agenda.

You can fully respect Ward as a great fighter but saying he would kick Usyk ass who is naturally a much bigger fighter and is skilled is nuts.

I don't get people who say this type of silliness in any sport. One thing to say "I think Ward can win" or he's got a great shot but he kick's his ass. SMH.

[Diego Rodriguez]

I get the size difference and I am not saying u imparticular but others on this site & Bellew say Usyks a legit threat at HW and those guys are 50+lbs bigger. Wards 6'1" and has a wide frame. I can see ward carrying athleticism to the low mid 190s. Usyk size could drown Ward late but I think Ward would dictate a fast pace and use veteran moves to secure a win.

I don't know what Usyk will do at HW, but I would clearly not discount him at HW. Everyone discounted Holyfield too. Usyk is going to be an underdog but would I give him a better chance than most HW's vs. Wilder or Joshua yes.

Well you made your case. I don't agree. Usyk fights at a fast pace, much faster than Ward and he does it at 200lbs already. He has a solid jab with reach. He has lots of movement and would have more power than K. I don't see this as a good fight for Ward in any way. Ward wouldn't be able to use his physicality on this guy. But that's my assessment. Maybe Ward will come out of retirement and take on Usyk's. I'm sure Usyk's would be willing to fight in Oakland even.

[kafkod]

give ward 3 tune ups and he can win a robbery in the first usyk fight. second fight he comes back with a vengeance and wins legit with a ball ko. all he does is win

And both fights would have to be in the USA, where hardly anybody would watch them. So Usyk would have to fight for free and Eddie Hearn would have to pay Ward at least $7million per fight out of his own pocket, because Dre knows what he's worth and he ain't taking no pay cuts for nobody.

[TheCell8]

Ward had two close fights with Kovalev, he stopped Kovalev in the 2nd but it was competitive throughout...

Kovalev is not on the same level as Usyk, and if Kovalev fought Usyk he'd get absolutely demolished in similar fashion as Bellew.