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  • 1hourRun
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    #11
    Originally posted by DramaShow
    Them guys u mentioned are gonna be sharper than miller. Many thought huck beat povetkin who was a top 3 heavyweight . Fury says his toughest fight was against cunningham amd says he hates fighting smaller quicker opponents
    And Usyk is going to be slower adding weight, you think carrying fifteen pounds extra will not fatigue you? Is Olek planning to come in like Deontay 'Bronze-Bomber' Wilder just weigh-in 214 vs. Luis 'King-Kong' Ortiz?
    Originally posted by MDPopescu
    ... in fact, Hearn only has Miller, Chisora, Whyte, and Joshua... (Fury is with Warren... and Wilder with Al Haymon)...
    I used Tyson Fury as an example to illustrate some of the obstacles that Olek will face at HW.
    Originally posted by dan_cov
    Miller

    Usyk would box the t1ts off that boy.

    Miller lol
    God bless America
    No doubt Usyk is the technician but he would be probably giving up over 80 pounds vs. 'Big-Baby' Miller, Gerald has a tremendous tank for a man his size and a very good chin ; just leaning on cruiserweight Usyk will tire Olek and make his arms, back, knees, calves very sore, its like lifting weights.
    Last edited by 1hourRun; 11-11-2018, 05:57 AM.

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    • dan_cov
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      #12
      Originally posted by 1hourRun
      And Usyk is going to be slower adding weight, you think carrying fifteen pounds extra will not fatigue you? I Olek planning to coming in like Deontay 'Bronze-Bomber' Wilder just weigh-in 214 vs. Luis 'King-Kong' Ortiz?

      I used Tyson Fury as an example to illustrate some of the obstacles that Olek will face at HW.

      No doubt Usyk is the technician but he would be probably giving up over 80 pounds vs. 'Big-Baby' Miller, Gerald has a tremendous tank for a man his size and a very good chin ; just leaning on cruiserweight Usyk will tire Olek and make his arms, back, knees, calves very sore, its like lifting weights.

      Gerald? I'm assuming you mean Gerald Washington? He has a terrible tank and gasses in every fight after four rounds of just jabbing.

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        #13
        Bakole injured his right shoulder in the 8th and couldn't throw his right hand. So if a guy is injured, yeah I guess lol.

        Not even like Bakole is in the top 100 of the division either, Hunter was actually around top 10 at cruiser.


        Edison Miranda got KO'd against Pavlik, Abraham, Bute, Bellew, but managed to go a full 10 against Dorticos, supposedly a top 3 puncher in the division.

        RJJ managed to last 10 rounds with Lebedev one of the biggest punchers in the division too.

        Bellew managed to go 7-0 as did Vlasov at cruiser before finally losing.



        You can catch some guys with shots they don't see coming but that's pretty much it. Usyk doesn't have elite power, he's all accumulation and work rate.

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          #14
          Miller hasn't fought one live body. No wonder his stamina looks good when he is fighting such terrible opposition that impersonate heavybags and are too scared to throw back and make him work. He's always fighting at his pace.

          Its one thing throwing a ton of arm-punches at a static target but doing it vs someone that is manuevering you, making you miss and making you pay is a whole different ballgame.

          Even then he just has stamina and size. He hasn't the skill.
          He hasn't a good jab, he can't cut the ring off well he is just a big brute that follows you and lays all over you clubbing you with arm-punches.

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            #15
            Originally posted by dan_cov
            Gerald? I'm assuming you mean Gerald Washington? He has a terrible tank and gasses in every fight after four rounds of just jabbing.
            Yes I misspelled Jarrell as in 'Big-Baby' Miller, but you already knew this if you read my post in context ; my points still stand.

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            • Abovetheclouds
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              #16
              People acting like the heavyweight division is elite.

              It's not, and hasn't been for years.

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                #17
                Usyk Can and Will find success at heavyweight

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Cutthroat
                  Bakole injured his right shoulder in the 8th and couldn't throw his right hand. So if a guy is injured, yeah I guess lol.

                  Not even like Bakole is in the top 100 of the division either, Hunter was actually around top 10 at cruiser.


                  Edison Miranda got KO'd against Pavlik, Abraham, Bute, Bellew, but managed to go a full 10 against Dorticos, supposedly a top 3 puncher in the division.

                  RJJ managed to last 10 rounds with Lebedev one of the biggest punchers in the division too.

                  Bellew managed to go 7-0 as did Vlasov at cruiser before finally losing.



                  You can catch some guys with shots they don't see coming but that's pretty much it. Usyk doesn't have elite power, he's all accumulation and work rate.
                  I watcged that fight live, he made up the shoulder injury after he got busted up and realised he wasnt gonna land that big shot. Hunter was hurting him in there.

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                    #19
                    I agree. He is big enough, fast enough, skillful enough and hits hard enough. He had no trouble beating giant heavyweights in the amateurs and he has a high KO percentage.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by 1hourRun
                      And Usyk is going to be slower adding weight, you think carrying fifteen pounds extra will not fatigue you? Is Olek planning to come in like Deontay 'Bronze-Bomber' Wilder just weigh-in 214 vs. Luis 'King-Kong' Ortiz?

                      I used Tyson Fury as an example to illustrate some of the obstacles that Olek will face at HW.

                      No doubt Usyk is the technician but he would be probably giving up over 80 pounds vs. 'Big-Baby' Miller, Gerald has a tremendous tank for a man his size and a very good chin ; just leaning on cruiserweight Usyk will tire Olek and make his arms, back, knees, calves very sore, its like lifting weights.
                      you're grabbing at straws, I'm just curious, why?

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