Comments Thread For: Deontay Wilder: I Won't Let This Gypsy Mess Up My Plans

[Zn1]

That's right. You tell em champ. You've come along way. You worked hard for this shit and won't be denied. Take the news and try and teach these fools who are counting you out by saying that you don't stand a chance against these elite British heavyweights. After Dec 1, the whole world would take notice of you. This would mark your second victory over an undefeated elite heavyweight in a row.

Luis Ortiz is elite based on what exactly? He might be top 5 because of how bad the HW division is, but he's hardly elite. What has he accomplished as a boxer either as an amateur or professional? Joseph Parker has done far more than Ortiz and he isn't being labelled elite.

I think I get it though, Ortiz is elite because it makes Wilder look better but when Ortiz fights Anthony Joshua he will then be considered an aging PED abusing underachieving bum that AJ aged out and then cherry-picked.

[Realboxingfan1]

Gypsy lmao just sounds funny .

[Reverb]

Yeah, people in UK & Britain have no clue about 'real gypsies' fortunately for them. Village in movie 'Borat' is actually gypsy village in Romania.
I Feel sorry for those people who deal with those people on daily basis.

Sorry to burst you bubble of ill informed generalisations.
Romany gypsies are present in the UK. There are Irish travellers too, also referred to as gypsies.(there is also a degree of mixing of the populations to some extent).
All have a history of being vilified.

I like your demonstration of not knowing what 'UK'and 'Britain' actually mean. You got yourself off to a flying start there.

[Reverb]

Sorry people but language has a life of its own...We may want neat tidy words that fit into nice categories but words carry their own meanings and using the N word is not the same as using the G word. It may be grossly unfair, it might be wrong, and it may be unprincipled, but words are not morally constructed, they take on history, their own meanings and are used accordingly.

It depends entirely on context.
When it's used to define people as being lower than yourself by right of birth, it will rightly cause offense.
There is a tone spread all over this thread in a few posts that the posters feel free to apply which they wouldn't apply to other contingents of the population.
It says a lot.

[DuckAdonis]

Well the first thing I thought of was ...that sounded a little bit racist..

[Reverb]

Well the first thing I thought of was ...that sounded a little bit racist..

Exactly, but we're dealing with the new nationalist mentality online who have been shown an open gate recently.
Easy promo shot by Wilder who knows fine it will make for clickbait articles in the run up to the PPV.

[NachoMan]

Well the first thing I thought of was ...that sounded a little bit racist..

I hate that word. Why is it racist to identify someone by their race?!?

[Zn1]

When I was a kid you could call a spade a shovel and you could call a guy by the name he chose for himself whether it had racist/offensive connotations or not.

These days, well.....

[billeau2]

It depends entirely on context.
When it's used to define people as being lower than yourself by right of birth, it will rightly cause offense.
There is a tone spread all over this thread in a few posts that the posters feel free to apply which they wouldn't apply to other contingents of the population.
It says a lot.

We create the context. Words just pick up meaning as they take on different meanings. Words are Amoral. They are not ethical, or unethical.

People cause offense by the way they choose to use a word. This gives the word more power than it should have because after all, it is a word.

My friend one does not need a magic word to insult another human being. Words help, they are a toolbox, but just as guns don't shoot people, words don't insult people, in both cases people do the action and use the instrument.

Why does this matter? because simply saying that calling someone a cracker is an insult the same way as using the N word (which always gets rubbed out on the site lol) happens not to be true. That does not mean one cannot insult a white person with words though! There just does not happen to be a magic word for that like the N word.

[Oshio]

Guys should quit boxing and go into promotion