Comments Thread For: Joshua vs. Usyk Could Very Well Happen in 2019, Says Hearn

[Oshio]

It would be destructive for Usyk to fight Joshua in 2019. He needs to be roughed up by fighting 3 top 10 HW before Joshua

[REDEEMER]

How did Dillian make is way up the WBO ranking?

Feb 2 2017 Whyte is ranked 13 by the WBO.

He fights Malcolm Tann and Robert Helenius in 2017. Neither Tann nor Helenius appear on the WBO ranking for 2017. Neither Tann nor Helenius own a lesser belt that guarantees world ranking in the WBO.

Jan 7 2018 Whyte is ranked 5th by the WBO

Whoops Browne who was also not ranked by the WBO world fifteen and earns himself a slot. Whyte's now fourth in the WBO.

Then he whoops Parker to the international title and finally his WBO ranking makes sense, but how did he get into position for that WBO international in the first place?


Current Ranks:

1. Dillian Whyte
2. Bryant Jennings
3. Tom Schwarz
4. Jarrell Miller
5. Zhilei Zhang
6. Kyotaro Fujimoto
7. Tyrone Spong
8. Agit Kabayel
9. Otto Wallin
10. Junior Fa
11. Dereck Chisora
12. Ali Eren Demirezen
13. Richard Lartey
14. Filip Hrgovic
15. Alexander Povetkin


Feb 2017:

1. David Haye
2. Hughie Fury
3. Jarrell Miller
4. Andy Ruiz
5. David Price
6. Christian Hammer
7. Kubrat Pulev
8. Edmund Gerber
9. Andrey Fedosov
10. Izuagbe Ugonoh
11. Tom Schwarz
12. Andriy Rudenko
13. Dillian Whyte
14. Razvan Cojanu
15. Kyotaro Fujimoto



What has Dillian Whyte done for the WBO to get him skipped above Tom Schwarz and why is there no push for Whyte to fight Schwarz?

Tom doesn't have names you recognize on his resume, like Helenius, or Browne, but you only recognize those names because they were over hyped ****cans most of you were waiting to see lose. Tom's resume may not have names you knew would lose but since 2015 the majority of Tom's fights have been WBO minor title fights.

It looks like on the surface of things Parker should have fought Tom but Whyte was able to step in because he's backed by money and promotion. The were both bottom of the 15 and worked their way toward the top of the fifteen in a year, but Tom did it by fighting men who mattered to the WBO and Whyte did it by having profile...there's nothing else I can think up to explain how Whyte moved up ranks without fighting ranked opposition or even minor belt holders.

That's without even bringing up how Miller is just say there, top five, the whole time and none of these three names have shared a ring.

Now we're being treated to Whyte-Chisora for the WBO's mando position? That's goddamn absurd. In a vacuum I didn't mind the Chisora fight, but now it just seems like more wasting time.

Whyte should be fighting Jarrell or Tom if he wants to be ahead of Usyk in mando. Similar to how Whyte is not the WBC mando because Dom is. The WBO should uphold the WBO's own ranking and quit giving these kids places to hid from one another.

Let's take one more look at the current WBO world ranks:

1. Dillian Whyte - One loss
2. Bryant Jennings - Two losses
3. Tom Schwarz - No losses
4. Jarrell Miller - No losses
5. Zhilei Zhang - No losses
6. Kyotaro Fujimoto - One loss
7. Tyrone Spong - No losses
8. Agit Kabayel - No losses
9. Otto Wallin - No losses
10. Junior Fa - No losses
11. Dereck Chisora - Eight losses
12. Ali Eren Demirezen - No losses
13. Richard Lartey - one loss
14. Filip Hrgovic - No losses
15. Alexander Povetkin - Two losses


I know of at least one easy way to ensure more losses and better resumes. How about the best actually fighting the best? Jesus 9 of 15 are unbeaten. Meaning the whole ****in' time they were building and getting into position they did not have to fight one another and probably won't have to fight one another to continue working toward mando.


Enough of that ****. Whyte should have to fight Usyk if Usyk decides he wants mando. Just do a final elim and if Whyte can beat Usyk then he's earned the shot. The only thing Whyte has done for the WBO was beat Parker. Who hadn't looked good since he fought Ruiz for the title anyways.

Instead of continuous book reports why not just follow the sport, its much w easier? Whyte was the silver belt WBC champion which could get him ranked in other sanctioning bodies, most guys had fights or were scheduled in others.

Parker was the former WBO champion and whyte turned down the IBF Pulev fight because of money and Ortiz because they weren't guaranteeing him the mando number one but number two. Povetkin had a match with Joshua and was ranked over whyte in the WBO at that time. Pulev was the WBO mando but lost it when he declined the Joshua fight.

[Bum squad]

Joshua will knock Usyk into next year.too big and strong Usyk couldn't hold him off for the full 12 rounds.

[Amber_TKO]

This don't surprise me at all, it kinda feels like Bellew is being thrown under the bus by Hearn to make the AJ/Usyk fight a bigger draw. Bellew gets one last payday, Usyk becomes a name in the UK & Joshua gets a defense against a cruiserweight. The pieces all fit.

[Marchegiano]

Instead of continuous book reports why not just follow the sport, its much w easier? Whyte was the silver belt WBC champion which could get him ranked in other sanctioning bodies, most guys had fights or were scheduled in others.

Parker was the former WBO champion and whyte turned down the IBF Pulev fight because of money and Ortiz because they weren't guaranteeing him the mando number one but number two. Povetkin had a match with Joshua and was ranked over whyte in the WBO at that time. Pulev was the WBO mando but lost it when he declined the Joshua fight.

I don't understand the separation you've made.

What is a book report if not the chronicle of following a book? I don't even mean that flippantly, I am being genuine. It just seems like you used different words to tell me to pay less attention then it'll all make more sense.

Anyway bubba let's look at this.

the silver belt WBC champion could get him ranked in other sanctioning bodies

Well slap my face and call me Susan that is news to me.

So, why wasn't Bermane Stiverne ever highly ranked by the WBO?

When Bermane won the WBC Silver title the WBO ranks looked like this:
1. Wladimir Klitschko
2. Vitali Klitschko
3. Tomasz Adamek
4. Robert Helenius
5. Odlanier Solis
6. Alexander Povetkin
7. David Haye
8. Alexander Dimitrenko
9. Chris Arreola
10. Denis Boytsov
11. Ruslan Chagaev
12. Nikolai Valuev
13. Eddie Chambers
14. Sam Peter
15. Jean-Marc Mormeck
16. Tony Thompson


Not a single spot in the WBO....even though he had a title that apparently gets you ranked outside of the sanctioning body it's named after.

Nothing else you said addresses ...well anything really. We're talking about how Whyte got into position not Parker's credentials. I'm pretty sure you lost the subject matter at this point.

So half of what you said is just made up bull**** and the other half has nothing to do with what I asked or proposed.

[champion4ever]

If Joshua does decide to fight Usyk next year, then he is going to have to pay a lot of set aside money because if not, he will be so tied up in lawsuits, that it won't be even funny. However, Eddie is only bullshitting though as usual because you just can't trust Eddie because Eddie lies. He knows full damn well he won't allow Usyk come so much as a hundred feet of Anthony Joshua until it's mandatory; Just like he won't allow Deontay Wilder, Luis Ortiz, Jarrell Miller or anybody who is a threat to AJ

[Nomar]

Miller & Whyte ? But he definitely needs to fight a tall HW to prepare for Joshua. Someone like Breazeale.

Usyk fought Joe Joyce in the WSB.