Has Deontay Wilder diminished himself by trying to box?

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  • W1LL
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    #1

    Has Deontay Wilder diminished himself by trying to box?

    We all know Wilder throws them windmill bombs with the power of Baron Samedi behind them. He can literally bludgeon people's souls from their bodies. We've witnessed it happen.

    However in recent times, maybe since becoming champion, for one reason or another Wilder's gameplan has changed in an attempt to incorporate more boxing and strategy. In all of his recent fights this has resulted in several rounds of stinking the joint out and losing many of those rounds. Wilder quite simply doesn't have a lot of intelligence, inside or outside of the ring.

    So why have they decided to do this when it isn't effective, given the tools at their disposal? Guarenteed if Wilder had a pure boxing match with any of the other top fighters at his weight he would lose embarrasingly. It's akin to plowing a field whilst using a ballistic missile to pull the plow.

    Why not just stick to what works, bombing people out from the opening bell? Is it a forced changed because of age or stamina issues? Why stumble around on the ropes taking unnecessary punishment for 6-7 rounds before opening up, if it can be done from the opening bell?
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    Even with technical flaws and relying on power, as a strategy it's better to try and pick his moments. Even if he doesn't have great timing it's less predictable. With Wilder I think his jab and left hook have improved. His gameplan for the Ortiz fight was good for the skillset he has, trying to force an early KO would've gotten him knocked out.

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    • Rip Chudd
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      #3
      So he shouldn't try to improve and work on his craft to see what works and doesn't work? I don't get this logic

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      • Boksfan
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        #4
        He can't windmill at high level like he did vs bums or they knock him out, apart from that he breaks his hands throwing poor punches so he must be cautious. War Wildher!

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        • IMDAZED
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          #5
          He won the world title by boxing.

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          • DuckAdonis
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            #6
            He countered Ortiz with that right hand...it was a very good strategy. Lure them in to the right hand...slow down the pace..make the single shots count

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            • Zn1
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              #7
              Originally posted by IMDAZED
              He won the world title by boxing.
              is that the world title that Chris Arreola fought for? Who did Bermane Stiverne actually beat that makes you rate him as one of the best boxers in the HW division? No one I know had even heard of the guy until he was lined up for a shot at the vacant WBC title ... just because he has a few skills doesn't mean someone with less boxing ability can't outbox him, there's more to fighting than technical ability.

              I think the Ortiz fight is a better indication of how he does when he tries to box those that possess some real boxing ability. Or the Washington fight, Spzilka fight etc

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              • IMDAZED
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                #8
                Originally posted by Zn1
                is that the world title that Chris Arreola fought for? Who did Bermane Stiverne actually beat that makes you rate him as one of the best boxers in the HW division? No one I know had even heard of the guy until he was lined up for a shot at the vacant WBC title ... just because he has a few skills doesn't mean someone with less boxing ability can't outbox him, there's more to fighting than technical ability.

                I think the Ortiz fight is a better indication of how he does when he tries to box those that possess some real boxing ability. Or the Washington fight, Spzilka fight etc
                So yeah, he won the world title by boxing.

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                • Zn1
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by IMDAZED
                  So yeah, he won the world title by boxing.
                  He won A world title, not THE world title

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                  • IMDAZED
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Zn1
                    He won A world title, not THE world title
                    By boxing. Yup.

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