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    By Lyle Fitzsimmons - With those 34-year-old Don Henley lyrics swirling in my sun-scorched, sleep-deprived head, I'm back at the keyboard to consider an idealistic mandate constructing the ideal sanctioning body. Of course, as with most mandates be they political, popular or existential some dissension exists. Some insist, with...
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  • #2
    Problem is... and always will be... sanctioning bodies will always be corrupt at worst and just inconsistent at best when it comes to these belts and money fights. There is zero reason for them to not be. Fighters want the hardware, boxing writers recognize the hardware when fights are signed, and promoters love the hardware when building up a fight.

    Basically, everyone wins a little. Except, of course, the legitimacy of the sport and the titles themselves. But the money is better all the way around because of these useless belts and even mediocre fighters have a chance to say they were a champion at the end of their careers. The system will stay unless we the fans walk completely away, which of course we won't because it is still boxing and I miss it when there is a dry spell in fights, much less to protest anything. So, at this point it is useless to talk reform except for fun.

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    • #3
      problem is.....

      1) none of them are definitive
      2) we do not even need one org that is not definitive, let alone four

      Haymon/Hoya could have done it

      PBC + The Ring

      Haymon's smarts/money + Oscars organisation/position

      they would have to literally buy the belts, and contract all of the top fighters..... and then burn the belts all at once, all on the same day, on the same stage..... while issuing notice to the sanctioning bodies and the sport in general as they announce a new single organisational structure

      but yea, dreams are free

      been thinking about this for years, decades actually..... because it is obvious that having 4x sanctioning org's is the main problem with boxing..... so I noticed that Haymon/Hoya were the combination that may have been able to pull it off

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      • #4
        greenK Lyle !!

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        • #5
          I have no problem with catchweights but agree they should not be for a title.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
            problem is.....

            1) none of them are definitive
            Neither are the grand slams in tennis. Doesn't change the fact that Wimbledon is more prestigious than the Australian Open.

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            • #7
              Great if there was a new body for me would need to be outside of the US country far to corrupt and racist. Its a bigger problem than just the sanctioning bodies the sport is an embarrassment when compared to others in how it is run.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Shadoww702 View Post
                I have no problem with catchweights but agree they should not be for a title.
                So true. I’m glad with Mayweather and Pacquiao retired I’m hoping it’s the end of what I called the “catchweight era”

                It’s especially BS when you had guys like Cotto and Canelo winning a title at a catxhweight, then refusing to defend the title at the damn weight limit.

                I’m fine with a catchweight in the sense that I’d GGG/Ward had fought at 164 for no titles. But if GGG wanted to fight Adonis Stevenson for the title at 169lbs I’d be screaming bull****

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by _Rexy_ View Post
                  So true. I’m glad with Mayweather and Pacquiao retired I’m hoping it’s the end of what I called the “catchweight era”

                  It’s especially BS when you had guys like Cotto and Canelo winning a title at a catxhweight, then refusing to defend the title at the damn weight limit.

                  I’m fine with a catchweight in the sense that I’d GGG/Ward had fought at 164 for no titles. But if GGG wanted to fight Adonis Stevenson for the title at 169lbs I’d be screaming bull****
                  You must not know that both Mayweather and Pacquiao have fights coming up and both are planning to keep fighting past these coming fights so no neither is retired.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by BigStomps View Post
                    You must not know that both Mayweather and Pacquiao have fights coming up and both are planning to keep fighting past these coming fights so no neither is retired.
                    Come on man...Floyd been retired since the Berto fight. He’s just making a mockery now.

                    And manny is semi retired.

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