He's already FOY without the Bellew win in my opinion. I don't think Bellew does much for his stock but it'll be a win that'll put some change in his pocket.
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Is Usyk fighter of the year after he beats Bellew?
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Originally posted by IronDanHamza View PostHindsight is 20-20
That phrase works when inherent differences in skill are revealed. Not when one guy has a ruptured achilles.
I have Usyk in my top 5 but I'd think very little of him if he lost to someone of Tony Bellew's level. Just being honest about it.
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Originally posted by Redd Foxx View PostYou can't imply that people would have felt the same way had they known of Haye's condition.
That phrase works when inherent differences in skill are revealed. Not when one guy has a ruptured achilles.
I have Usyk in my top 5 but I'd think very little of him if he lost to someone of Tony Bellew's level. Just being honest about it.
Didn't matter, no one gave him a chance of lasting 3 rounds.
He was heavy underdog for the rematch too.
He deserves credit for upsetting the odds
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Originally posted by Redd Foxx View PostYou can't imply that people would have felt the same way had they known of Haye's condition.
That phrase works when inherent differences in skill are revealed. Not when one guy has a ruptured achilles.
I have Usyk in my top 5 but I'd think very little of him if he lost to someone of Tony Bellew's level. Just being honest about it.
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Originally posted by Redd Foxx View PostYou can't imply that people would have felt the same way had they known of Haye's condition.
That phrase works when inherent differences in skill are revealed. Not when one guy has a ruptured achilles.
I have Usyk in my top 5 but I'd think very little of him if he lost to someone of Tony Bellew's level. Just being honest about it.
Some fighters mature later, after some losses and learning curves. Right now he will be a hard out for anyone because the confidence is so high and he is at the top of his game. You make him sound like a bum, and he's not. If Usyk beats him I would rank it on a similar level to his best wins, but if Usyk loses you would be hasty to just dismiss him, the context would matter, fighters have bad nights, fighters have extraordinary nights, upsets happen, if the underdog is a good fighter who can punch a little the odds of an upset increase, which is the scenario we have here imo
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Originally posted by ScottWeiland View PostAnd Fury has done what precisely ? Fists of Fluff Fury is worse than a typical GGG opponent, then again I’m told he’s the greatest their ever was so I guess I know what I’m dealing with here. NSB#
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