Comments Thread For: Hearn: If Fury Beats Wilder, Rematch Eliminates Both For Joshua

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I dig Hearn. I think he's the best promoter in the game today. BUT he needs to f#cking stop with all this bs. April is Joshua vs Whyte II. Just f#cking announce it already.

Assuming of course Whyte doesn't lose to Del Boy which judging by the first fight could happen. But if Whyte does lose its not like Wilder or Fury will be in the running anyway cuz then Big Baby or Pulev are probably gonna get the call up. And if its none of these guys getting the call up I'd bet its someone deemed lower then Big Baby or Pulev. So Hearn just stop it. Joshua vs Wilder (or Fury) isn't happening til 2020 best case.

Theres nothing stopping Finkel from saying they are interested in the April fight ,that's why hes already stated months ago they are not going to fight Joshua. Why do you guys continuously blame Hearn? Team Wilder has openly dsaid they aren't looking for Joshua next and Fury recently said he couldn't confirm that there is a two way rematch claus which means there is one ,so how on earth can Hearn make a impossible fight?

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Theres nothing stopping Finkel from saying they are interested in the April fight ,that's why hes already stated months ago they are not going to fight Joshua. Why do you guys continuously blame Hearn? Team Wilder has openly dsaid they aren't looking for Joshua next and Fury recently said he couldn't confirm that there is a two way rematch claus which means there is one ,so how on earth can Hearn make a impossible fight?

There is so much meta game bs in this Joshua vs Wilder sh^t I got no idea where to start with you guys who are acting like there isn't problems with how Hearn is doing sh^t.

I mean go look at 12 different videos about this potential fight over the last 6 months or so & Hearn is on some other sh^t in each one. The bottom line for me is when Joshua asked for $50M & then got offered $50M & then started to stutter & sh^t with why that wasn't gonna work or w/e bs he came up with.

The reality is Hearn doesn't want this fight. And Joshua is Hearn's cakeboy so he's gonna go along with the plan w/e it maybe cuz he don't like money & who wouldn't in his situation. I'm not faulting Joshua for going along with the plan cuz he likes money & I'd do the same sh^t in his shoes. And I might even prolong & try to avoid or maximize my upside if I was Hearn to.

I don't think of this so much as a Hearn vs Finkel thing or a Wilder vs Joshua thing cuz I'd probably play my cards the same way if I was any particular person in this exchange, but as a fan I do feel like Hearn is the one worried about f#cking up this Joshua project which has the potential to be one of the biggest money making situations in boxing history. I don't think the hugeness of this Joshua project is lost on Hearn. And I don't think its lost on him how hated he'll be by the UK public if he doesn't stretch every advantage he can get for Joshua in his biggest most competitive fights.

Meanwhile Wilder's already a huge win for where he's come from & the potential he's got so he's already playing on house money.

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There is so much meta game bs in this Joshua vs Wilder sh^t I got no idea where to start with you guys who are acting like there isn't problems with how Hearn is doing sh^t.

I mean go look at 12 different videos about this potential fight over the last 6 months or so & Hearn is on some other sh^t in each one. The bottom line for me is when Joshua asked for $50M & then got offered $50M & then started to stutter & sh^t with why that wasn't gonna work or w/e bs he came up with.

The reality is Hearn doesn't want this fight. And Joshua is Hearn's cakeboy so he's gonna go along with the plan w/e it maybe cuz he don't like money & who wouldn't in his situation. I'm not faulting Joshua for going along with the plan cuz he likes money & I'd do the same sh^t in his shoes. And I might even prolong & try to avoid or maximize my upside if I was Hearn to.

I don't think of this so much as a Hearn vs Finkel thing or a Wilder vs Joshua thing cuz I'd probably play my cards the same way if I was any particular person in this exchange, but as a fan I do feel like Hearn is the one worried about f#cking up this Joshua project which has the potential to be one of the biggest money making situations in boxing history. I don't think the hugeness of this Joshua project is lost on Hearn. And I don't think its lost on him how hated he'll be by the UK public if he doesn't stretch every advantage he can get for Joshua in his biggest most competitive fights.

Meanwhile Wilder's already a huge win for where he's come from & the potential he's got so he's already playing on house money.

Joshua dnt ask for 50 million so your point of view is wrong off the bat. Joshua said if it wasa 100 million dollar fight he would take 50% and take 50 million ,in which he didn't say he would fight in the u.s too.

The previous post I was responding to has several things also wrong.

1. Joshua cant fight Pulev before Whyte in the Mandotory rotation. so your assertion that Pulev is next isn't true unless whyte were to lose.

2. Miller is not on Joshuas radar and Hearn made that clear that he wants him to wina title of somesort and fight him in the U.s which isn't happening anytime soon.

3. You blamed Hearn yet theres a two way rematch claus going on and Hearn probably knows this because most people do who can put two and two together as to why Finkel is deflecting talks and saying hes not interested in a Joshua April fight yet tyou place blame on the guy who has nothing to do with that? how is that logical?

4. Wilder is fighting on December 1st/ Whyte is fighting on December 22nd. Do you see anything weird here when you state Hearn should just announce the Whyte fight ? It is clearly in finkels hands because what happens weeks later is up to team wilder,Hearn cannot pencil in whyte because hes fighting weeks later?

Im not sure how you came to the conclusion this is difficult to put together? Seems very simple to me?

[Eff Pandas]

Joshua dnt ask for 50 million so your point of view is wrong off the bat. Joshua said if it wasa 100 million dollar fight he would take 50% and take 50 million ,in which he didn't say he would fight in the u.s too.

I don't care if you track bs better than me. Good luck coming out ahead thinking bs is real in real life.

The bottom line is Joshua was cool with 50M. Wilder's people were like Ok. And Joshua pooped his pants.

1. Joshua cant fight Pulev before Whyte in the Mandotory rotation. so your assertion that Pulev is next isn't true unless whyte were to lose.

As far as I'm aware Joshua has no definite next mando. But Whyte is next unless he loses regardless so idk what exactly you are taking issue with with what I said.

2. Miller is not on Joshuas radar and Hearn made that clear that he wants him to wina title of somesort and fight him in the U.s which isn't happening anytime soon.

If Whyte loses I think Big Baby is on the radar. I don't buy Big Baby is for sure the next US opponent & only that. I think if he has a belt he could end up landing anywhere on Joshua's list. And I think Hearn believe's Miller is an easy W.

3. You blamed Hearn yet theres a two way rematch claus going on and Hearn probably knows this because most people do who can put two and two together as to why Finkel is deflecting talks and saying hes not interested in a Joshua April fight yet tyou place blame on the guy who has nothing to do with that? how is that logical?

The fight isn't happening til 2020 AT BEST. Wilder can't f#ck up what wasn't gonna happen. Hearn, his daddy & all these mfers are mfers with skin in the game are milking this fight to maximum money. I've seen this a million times in US boxing. If you are a UK guy you might just not be used to milking big fights idk man.

4. Wilder is fighting on December 1st/ Whyte is fighting on December 22nd. Do you see anything weird here when you state Hearn should just announce the Whyte fight ? It is clearly in finkels hands because what happens weeks later is up to team wilder,Hearn cannot pencil in whyte because hes fighting weeks later?

Bruh idk why you are so confused about basic sh^t, but fights get called out unoffically all the time. "If x wins his next fight he'll fight (big name guy)". This is standard sh^t & everyone knows unless Whyte drops the ball he's next.

I'm not so much saying he needs a boxing poster already. I'm more making light that EVERYONE knows Whyte is next.

[Corelone]

Whyte would be on a nine fight win streak against better opposition since 2016 . He's a more impressive win.

Did you see how Whyte won his last fight? He's lucky one of those Scotch refs wasn't working it.

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Did you see how Whyte won his last fight? He's lucky one of those Scotch refs wasn't working it.

Whyte > H. fury / Parker

Pulev hasn't actually fought a relative guy in between Klitchko and Hughie.

Resumes also don't go by close fights. If that's the case wilders would say the Ref arguably saved him where the fight could have been stopped . it would also say the bell saved wilder . Do you see the difference?

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I don't care if you track bs better than me. Good luck coming out ahead thinking bs is real in real life.

The bottom line is Joshua was cool with 50M. Wilder's people were like Ok. And Joshua pooped his pants.



As far as I'm aware Joshua has no definite next mando. But Whyte is next unless he loses regardless so idk what exactly you are taking issue with with what I said.



If Whyte loses I think Big Baby is on the radar. I don't buy Big Baby is for sure the next US opponent & only that. I think if he has a belt he could end up landing anywhere on Joshua's list. And I think Hearn believe's Miller is an easy W.



The fight isn't happening til 2020 AT BEST. Wilder can't f#ck up what wasn't gonna happen. Hearn, his daddy & all these mfers are mfers with skin in the game are milking this fight to maximum money. I've seen this a million times in US boxing. If you are a UK guy you might just not be used to milking big fights idk man.



Bruh idk why you are so confused about basic sh^t, but fights get called out unoffically all the time. "If x wins his next fight he'll fight (big name guy)". This is standard sh^t & everyone knows unless Whyte drops the ball he's next.

I'm not so much saying he needs a boxing poster already. I'm more making light that EVERYONE knows Whyte is next.

Unification trumps mandatories so no Whyte isn't officially next and cant be until he beats Chisora no matter how warped your trying to twist things here.

Finkel could inform the other sanctioning bodies that he wants a unification match and that would let Hearn notify them, its why he wants talks now or soon after Wilder fights fury. Finkel hasn't done that because there is a two way rematch clause ,but go on blame Hearn it fits with the forum of agenda based thinking. No rational person could possibly blame hearn because of Wilders contract obligation and Finkels uncooperation from lthe start of cancelled meetings...jeez...give me what you kids are smoking.

Im picking fury to win anyway so its all pointless if wilder doesn't win, so im assuming Whyte will be next.

The 50 million wasn't a contract it was a random statement after Hearn offered 12,5 million ,that was refused by finkel. It was a counter offer with no paperwork involved,the actual one who pooped was Wilder and declined an actual offer and played games since March of this year when he was demanding 50% even then but I guess that's Hearns fault too? Like I said give me them drugs I feel im missing out. Ha

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Unification trumps mandatories so no Whyte isn't officially next and cant be until he beats Chisora no matter how warped your trying to twist things here.

No clue what you are getting at here again. You can't make a guy agree to a unification fight.

Whyte is next cuz Hearn wants it next. He doesn't want Wilder next.

The 50 million wasn't a contract it was a random statement

It was a random statement about a deal. And Hearn & Joshua didn't want it. Deals get made off of words first. If you shoot down the words then sh^t ain't gonna happen. Simple as that.

The Hearn's got this fight booked for 2020 if both are undefeated still (they won't be). Both wanna maximize the upside & downplay the risk with Joshua. And its better for them to let Wilder get a lil older before making that fight for money reasons & odds to win reasons.

[P4Pdunny]

Everybody at this point knows it will be Whyte, such an underwhelming fight.

[Jkp]

Everybody at this point knows it will be Whyte, such an underwhelming fight.

Boycott this pathetic matchup.

Whyte is garbage, no one wants to see him get pummelled by AJ a second time.

Complete joke, Eddie taking the p1ss with this one, milking the UK fanboys.