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  • #51
    Originally posted by Fabes88 View Post
    That’s exactly my point. Brook was a last minute replacement and ggg got crucified and those same people are ok with Spence fighting a midget who should be defending his title two weight classes below.

    Garcia moved up in weight to one of the worst divisions in boxing (that’s what everyone said when bud unified it) and beat an overhyped broner and a kickboxer with no notable wins and 14 pro fights at the time. Are you honestly trying to tell me there isn’t more suitable opponents for both fighters?

    This fight is bs and this is coming from a big fan of both fighters so there’s no agenda here I’m just calling a spade a spade.
    I see nothing wrong with a top pfp guy moving up one weight for a big challenge. Duran moved up two weights to fight Ray Leonard. Pac moved up to fight DLH. Leonard moved up to fight Hagler. Lots of examples. Hearns was a huge welterweight that looked big as a middleweight, but no one complained about his size. JMM moved up to fight Floyd when he was #2pfp, and Floyd was only a 2-1 favorite after being retired for almost 2 years. With one fight at 140 Floyd called out Mosley and DLH. Was Floyd a 135 lber still?

    Who else would fight Spence? We all know the Crawford fight is a year away, and we also know Mikey will go any direction to take fights with TR the way Arum screwed him and had to sit for 2 of his best years. I love it when boxers dare to be great.

    I would like to see Mikey vs Loma, Linares, Tank, Haney, Prograis at 140 and Spence vs Crawford, Danny Garcia, Porter, Thurman. I'll take this fight for now. One guy in his prime, and Spence still getting to his. We need to embrace boxers that have courage, not belittle and criticize them. Spence deserves no criticism because he is being called out by a 140lber that is a top pfp guy.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by Chollo Vista View Post
      And I disagree with this logic for Charlo.

      He should've fought Lara instead of Trout or Harrison. If he couldn't get Lara he should've targeted Mungia... If he couldn't get Mungia, ok then fight Trout or Harrison... Not the other way around
      In the last 3 years Charlo has a much better resume than Hurd. Lara vs Hurd II should happen for as close as it was. Lara will fight Castano next instead. As far as what I read, Charlo was willing to fight Lara.

      https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/new...ke-a-decision/

      As far as Munguia,

      “Little boy, tell him to come see us,” Charlo said about Munguia. “They just won the championship, telling people they want to get all the belts. Let him fight somebody else. I guarantee you that we’re going to see what he’s really made of.” Munguia signing with TR doesn't help either.
      Last edited by JWHardin; 11-04-2018, 07:29 AM.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by Fabes88 View Post
        I’m not sure if brook fought at the full 154 weight limit before ggg but he did fight above 147. Kell Brook is a notoriously big welter, in fact if I remember correctly he might have even outweighed ggg come fight night. we cannot say the same for Garcia.

        It’s bs because he’s not a 140lb fighter his team have even come out and said his best weight is 135 and you honestly expect him to be competitive with Spence 2 weights above? Foh and keep the same energy you had when brook faced ggg and Canelo faced Khan.

        Khan and Brook never fought one weight classe below Canelo and GGG like Garcia has. Don’t matter what his team says fact is he’s faced two ranked opponents at 140. So he has fought at 140 no matter what you say. He’s walks around about 155lbs. He shouldn’t be fighting at 135 anyway. It wouldn’t be two weights above because he’s fought at 140 TWICE stop being ******. If you want to be mentioned amongst ATG you have to do this Duran did it Pacquio did it. This ain’t cheerleading son stop being so soft. You know Mikey to big for 135
        Last edited by THEFRESHBRAWLER; 11-04-2018, 09:36 AM.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by CLUE View Post
          No he is not, stop saying this dumb ish people.

          Look at the size difference in Spence and Charlo


          And this was both in shape within 2 weeks of each of their fight. 154 Pound Charlo body is so much thicker.
          Thats just a way to discredit Spence accomplishments by saying he’s a middleweight fighting at 147.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by Bjl12 View Post
            Spence has been hurt by lesser punchers and neutralized by lesser boxers.

            Combine that with TCs mean streak and the stoppage can happen IF Errol doesnt box "safe" and go into survival mode.

            Punchers can absolutely be shocked and wiped away given the right circumstances and TC is the right kind of boxer/puncher...whether Errrol is more of a boxer that I give him credit for we'll find out
            Man TC was hurt by Small Gamboa and he barely stopped a one legged Benavidez who had only been in one 12 round fight. Stop it Crawford and stopping Spence easily as you say

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            • #56
              Originally posted by Sledgeweather17 View Post
              1) Brook didn't have titles at 154.

              2) Garcia won titles at 140.

              3) Unlike GGG, Spence aint no hypocrite who criticised Canelo for fighting Khan and then turned around and fought a Welterweight.
              You’re wasting your time with that guy he seems to be convinced Mikey has never fought at 140. He’ll probably accuse you of being my alt. That’s what they do around here when no one agrees with them.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by JWHardin View Post
                In the last 3 years Charlo has a much better resume than Hurd
                I'm sick of you guys lying. Let's look at The Ring Rankings and compare who's fought the better challenges:

                2014 - Gabe Rosado - Not ranked
                2015 - Vanes Matrison - #7
                2016 - John Jackson - Not ranked
                2017 - Charles Hatley - Not ranked
                2017 - Erickson Lubin - Not ranked
                2018 - Austin Trout - Not ranked
                2018 - Tony Harrison - Not ranked

                Jarrett Hurd

                2015 - Frank Galarza - Not ranked
                2016 - Oscar Molina - Not ranked
                2016 - Dan Ion - Not ranked
                2017 - Tony Harrison - Not ranked
                2017 - Austin Trout - #7
                2018 - Erislandy Lara - #1

                Jaime Munguia -

                2018 - Sadam Ali - #4
                2018 - Liam Smith - #6
                2018 - Brandon Cook - Not ranked


                And I get attacked for saying Charlo has done jack schit and is being protected?
                Last edited by Chollo Vista; 11-04-2018, 10:23 AM.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by dwayne3534 View Post
                  Spence never said this. He said he wants to unify at 147 then move up. If he beats Mikey, he becomes the money man at 147 and will force a fight with Thurman and/ or Porter. Spence said he wants to go all the way to 160.
                  "Spence said..." GGG said 154-168 too.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by JWHardin View Post
                    I see nothing wrong with a top pfp guy moving up one weight for a big challenge. Duran moved up two weights to fight Ray Leonard. Pac moved up to fight DLH. Leonard moved up to fight Hagler. Lots of examples. Hearns was a huge welterweight that looked big as a middleweight, but no one complained about his size. JMM moved up to fight Floyd when he was #2pfp, and Floyd was only a 2-1 favorite after being retired for almost 2 years. With one fight at 140 Floyd called out Mosley and DLH. Was Floyd a 135 lber still?

                    Who else would fight Spence? We all know the Crawford fight is a year away, and we also know Mikey will go any direction to take fights with TR the way Arum screwed him and had to sit for 2 of his best years. I love it when boxers dare to be great.

                    I would like to see Mikey vs Loma, Linares, Tank, Haney, Prograis at 140 and Spence vs Crawford, Danny Garcia, Porter, Thurman. I'll take this fight for now. One guy in his prime, and Spence still getting to his. We need to embrace boxers that have courage, not belittle and criticize them. Spence deserves no criticism because he is being called out by a 140lber that is a top pfp guy.
                    Mikey is a top p4pr now? How convenient. This fight is bs. There’s bigger and better fights for both men at their natural weights it’s as simple as that. Garcia has no hope in hell of winning it’s a pointless fight that we don’t need to See. Spence deserves the same criticism that Canelo and ggg got hes not getting a pass from me for this bs

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by THEFRESHBRAWLER View Post
                      Khan and Brook never fought one weight classe below Canelo and GGG like Garcia has. Don’t matter what his team says fact is he’s faced two ranked opponents at 140. So he has fought at 140 no matter what you say. He’s walks around about 155lbs. He shouldn’t be fighting at 135 anyway. It wouldn’t be two weights above because he’s fought at 140 TWICE stop being ******. If you want to be mentioned amongst ATG you have to do this Duran did it Pacquio did it. This ain’t cheerleading son stop being so soft. You know Mikey to big for 135
                      Exactly this ain’t cheerleading so although Spence is my guy I’m not going to be a pbc cheerleader and stand for this bs. I’m going to keep the same energy I had when Canelo and ggg fought smaller opponents. Kell Brook walks around and god knows what probably about 170. There’s plenty for Mikey to do that doesn’t involve taking a ****** fight that’s pretty much a forgone conclusion

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