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  • #21
    Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
    Great interview by Sugar! Another thing Sugar brought up, when Brook was fighting GGG, was that he didn't go the full 160 for Hagler because he didn't want to lose his speed! You don't have be 147 to beat a 147lb. fighter, and you don't want to lose your speed and timing for the sake of gaining muscle mass!



    Brook weighing 176 at the 30-day weighin was ******ED

    I knew he was fcuked at that point

    you are 100% correct, he needed to win that fight as the smaller man

    he gave away his advantages

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Realizniguhnit View Post
      BS Ray just admitted to be almost KO'ed by sparring partners at 30 years old. Today's athletes are bigger and stronger than dudes were in the 80's. It's possible SRL may have been able to beat some of today's fighters but to say he does it "comfortably" is a major stretch..As a matter of fact SRL didn't fight many of the best fighters around his weight at the time by today's standard and terminology you can say that he ducked a few of them..


      big deal

      they are not as well-schooled / well-rounded

      the athletes you refer to would die over 15 rounds

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      • #23
        This would be nothing like Leonard/Hagler. And SRL as great as he is was the first Diva. Hagler would have beat him over 15. Leonard knew that. Also, neither Spence, nor Garcia are in that elite league.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
          Brook weighing 176 at the 30-day weighin was ******ED

          I knew he was fcuked at that point

          you are 100% correct, he needed to win that fight as the smaller man

          he gave away his advantages
          Much respect! I can't take any credit, it's all SRL! He said he only got to 157, but he couldn't keep eating without losing his speed!

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          • #25
            This fight won't happen for a few yrs. Good to dream though.

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            • #26
              SPENCE stops MIKEY whenever they fight!

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              • #27
                Look here ray. You don’t have to make Hagler stories up 30 years later to get your point across. Just analyze the fight.

                And PLEASE give us that Hagler Jr vs. Leonard Jr matchup!

                https://********/0Apiwid0kxE

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                • #28
                  The only difference I see in Ray Leonard's challenge of Marvin Hagler to Garcia's challenge of Spence is that Marvin Hagler was a proven, tried and true fighter. While Spence on the other hand, is not. He is yet largely green and untested.

                  Another salient difference is that Hagler and Leonard were nearly the same size. Leonard was a natural middleweight who was cutting weight in order to make the welterweight division.

                  Case in point, Ray was a large welterweight who fought middleweights all the time before defeating Wilfredo Benitez to become the WBC's welterweight champion. Therefore, the size differential was absent.

                  On the other hand, it is simply not the case with Mikey Garcia and Errol Spence, Jr. Erroll, is clearly naturally larger and stronger than Mikey. In addition, Spence is at least more than 4 weight divisions higher than Mikey Garcia and outweighs him by some 20 odd pounds or more too.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
                    big deal

                    they are not as well-schooled / well-rounded

                    the athletes you refer to would die over 15 rounds
                    Yea so well schooled and rounded that he was nearly getting KTFO by sparring partners at age 30 gtoh u guys do far too much kissing azz of boxers of past eras, u don't know what those guys could have done in this era with today's fighters. No body does for sure. 1 thing I know is he def wouldn't have defeated today's fighters easily at the end of the day like what the other guy said RAY was really a middleweight squeezing down.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by jvsnypes View Post
                      I respect your opinion, but what fighter in history fought every major threat in their division? Ray beat the best lightweight in the world in Duran. Some say the greatest lightweight ever. Ray beat the best welterweight in the world in Hearns. Then beat Hagler, who was The best at middleweight at the time. Not many fighters in history has done that. Garcia is in a position to do it, but we’ll see.
                      People give SRL way to much credit for beating a lightweight. It's basically what Spence is about to do in beating Mikey. They are both really MW's squeezing down in weight, these are simply fights they are suppose to win. Classic cases of a great small man vs a great big man usually the big man will come out on top. Duran ain't nothing but 5'6 5'7 same size as Garcia and Spence and SRL both 5'10.

                      Then it's funny how people say well Canelo was green at 23 vs Floyd but want to give SRL so much credit for beating a 22 year old Hearns which he couldn't do a 2nd time btw...

                      Then at the end of the day he beat a 32 year old Hagler a fight many people said back then came 3-5 years too late by the time they fought

                      So it's like for all the excuses people have for today's fighters u can make the same critiques for SRL's wins back then...

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