Comments Thread For: Daniel Jacobs Drops, Decisions Derevyanchenko For IBF Title

[Realizniguhnit]

Damn sergey would not last 6 rds with ggg with those shots he took. Way too open.

Exactly I think people also are ignoring the fact that Jacobs was anywhere from 8-13pds larger when he faced GGG as well had GGG fought this Jacobs he just might have knocked him out

[BoloPuncher1]

Very close entertaining fight. Don't know what that old man Lederman was seeing, but he needs get his eyes checked & he should've retired a long time ago. I had it 114-113 for Jacobs. Derevyanchenko is a solid fighter, as he showed today. The flash knockdown made a difference as I think that it made Derevyanchenko more hesitant at the beginning. Good hard fought win for Jacobs.

This. To me the knockdown was the difference from this being a draw.
A lot was made about Derevyanchenko breathing with his mouth open, but he fought quite effectively through his tiredness. He also finished stronger than Jacobs.
Lampley and Lederman just can't comprehend what's going on in fights anymore.

[bigdunny1]

This. To me the knockdown was the difference from this being a draw.
A lot was made about Derevyanchenko breathing with his mouth open, but he fought quite effectively through his tiredness. He also finished stronger than Jacobs.
Lampley and Lederman just can't comprehend what's going on in fights anymore.

Horrible job as usual from lederman even his own daughter disagreed not a single judge agreed that the fight was a blowout like idiot Harold lederman scored it. And lampley has been bias and agenda based for far too long. Boxing has passed by both these dinosaurs

[BigStomps]

Just as I said about Jacobs before, him fighting a close fight with Cripple G says more about Cripple G than it does him. I just never thought Jacobs was that good. The Quillin fight folled everyone. Quillin's record fooled everyone.

If Jacobs would have lost this fight, it would have been his own fight. Every time he hurt Deverynchenko, he backed off of him. He just never listens to his corner. I know for a fact Canelo knocks him out and I'm not so sure he beats Charlo.

I'm a huge Canelo fan but you know for a fact Canelo knocks out Jacobs??
What fact is that? ??
Are you fuccing ******??

[cameltoe]

This. To me the knockdown was the difference from this being a draw.
A lot was made about Derevyanchenko breathing with his mouth open, but he fought quite effectively through his tiredness. He also finished stronger than Jacobs.
Lampley and Lederman just can't comprehend what's going on in fights anymore.

Lampley’s never been able to see past his own bias and Lederman’s cards have been getting progressively worse.

[batista84]

Great fight!

As I thought Jacobs would box his way into a ud, but Derev put a great effort and gave him a tough fight.

I'm all for it for a Canelo vs Jacobs fight in May, hopefully it gets made.

[KnickTillDeaTh]

If Boxing were in trouble, it would be because fans are so bad at scoring fights and this board is a testament to that fact.

Pressure and work rate does not equal a winning round. Rounds are scored with clean and effective punching, effective aggression defense and ring generalship. Yes every one is going to have variations of what these things mean, but at it's simplest form clean stronger punches usually trump volume weaker punches, flashy combos trump the one shot power punches. Establishing that you are the aggressor is not just coming forward, It's getting inside of your opponents gate, pushing them back with aggressive forward movement, offensive pressure while taking limited shots back. It also encompasses trapping your opponent on the ropes and in the corners, while again "NOT" taking many shots in return. Ring generalship is controlling where most of the fight happens, the ability to move when and where you want, and fight when and where you want. The ability to get to any space/distance, and the ability to turn your opponent and set traps, with out taking much damage.

These are the reasons Jacobs won the fight. Any of you who watched this fight from a broadcast where you had premier and ideal angles to see exactly what was happening, exactly what punches were landing and missing, if you have Derevyanchenko winning is proof that you cannot score a fight. Missing shots and getting picked off on his way in is not effective aggression. Inability to cut off the ring and stop Jacobs from going and fighting where ever he wanted is not effective aggression. Landing a ridiculously low percentage of your shots is not an effective work rate.

Understand that judges can only see fights on one angle, so where two judges ultimately see missing shots, one judge sees a high work rate and is unable to tell if shots are landing based on where the fighters, and ref are standing. This is more than likely what happened to Julie Lederman, as she has been one of the better judges of recent times, and she is usually in line with here fellow judges on fights that are easy to score, just like this one was. Unbelievable to me that anyone would have Derevyanchenko winning, especially if they watched the broad cast.

Jacobs won 7 rounds clearly, Derevyanchenko won 4 clearly, and 1 round was so close it could have gone either way. For me any score card from 115-112 to 116-111 for Jacobs is acceptable. Anything closer is quite frankly a failure of proper judging. I just checked multiple Boxing web sites and couldn't find a single one that had SD winning, and I only found one so far that scored it closer than 115-112 Jacobs. Easy fight to score.

[aboutfkntime]

If Boxing were in trouble, it would be because fans are so bad at scoring fights and this board is a testament to that fact.

Pressure and work rate does not equal a winning round. Rounds are scored with clean and effective punching, effective aggression defense and ring generalship. Yes every one is going to have variations of what these things mean, but at it's simplest form clean stronger punches usually trump volume weaker punches, flashy combos trump the one shot power punches. Establishing that you are the aggressor is not just coming forward, It's getting inside of your opponents gate, pushing them back with aggressive forward movement, offensive pressure while taking limited shots back. It also encompasses trapping your opponent on the ropes and in the corners, while again "NOT" taking many shots in return. Ring generalship is controlling where most of the fight happens, the ability to move when and where you want, and fight when and where you want. The ability to get to any space/distance, and the ability to turn your opponent and set traps, with out taking much damage.

These are the reasons Jacobs won the fight. Any of you who watched this fight from a broadcast where you had premier and ideal angles to see exactly what was happening, exactly what punches were landing and missing, if you have Derevyanchenko winning is proof that you cannot score a fight. Missing shots and getting picked off on his way in is not effective aggression. Inability to cut off the ring and stop Jacobs from going and fighting where ever he wanted is not effective aggression. Landing a ridiculously low percentage of your shots is not an effective work rate.

Understand that judges can only see fights on one angle, so where two judges ultimately see missing shots, one judge sees a high work rate and is unable to tell if shots are landing based on where the fighters, and ref are standing. This is more than likely what happened to Julie Lederman, as she has been one of the better judges of recent times, and she is usually in line with here fellow judges on fights that are easy to score, just like this one was. Unbelievable to me that anyone would have Derevyanchenko winning, especially if they watched the broad cast.

Jacobs won 7 rounds clearly, Derevyanchenko won 4 clearly, and 1 round was so close it could have gone either way. For me any score card from 115-112 to 116-111 for Jacobs is acceptable. Anything closer is quite frankly a failure of proper judging. I just checked multiple Boxing web sites and couldn't find a single one that had SD winning, and I only found one so far that scored it closer than 115-112 Jacobs. Easy fight to score.

I mostly agree, good post !

and that is EXACTLY what knowledgeable observers were saying in response to the outpouring of tears when Canelo beat Golovkin last month

checking compubox to see who won is sooooo fkn ******ed

even in amateur boxing

[aboutfkntime]

pretty much went exactly as I picked it

Jacobs winning a TOUGH fight by UD/SD

I even picked that he would knock Derevyanchenko down

only thing I got wrong is, I said he may have to climb off the floor himself

[KnickTillDeaTh]

I mostly agree, good post !

and that is EXACTLY what knowledgeable observers were saying in response to the outpouring of tears when Canelo beat Golovkin last month

checking compubox to see who won is sooooo fkn ******ed

even in amateur boxing

Oh man, don't get me started on compubox, or showtimes punchstat. I have said for years that punch stats should not be revealed until the end of the fight. People tend to watch a fight and say it was a close round but I think fighter A pulled it off. Then they see or hear compubox and say but fighter B landed more punches, he must have won the round. Probably one of the worst things to happen to boxing. And Lampley doesn't score a round until he sees the stats. If judges cant see them, then fans shouldn't see them to the fights over.