Is there a way you can hate Lomachenko without being biased?

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  • BillyBoxing
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    #91
    Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat
    TS is basically asking why everyone doesn't love Loma. We gave him one reason.

    I don't hate Loma and used to be a big fan but my dislike is growing everyday thanks to his fans. This thread is a perfect example-- a congregation of the fanboys.
    He doesn't ask why people don't love him.

    TS asks why hating/being an active hater wich is not the same as just "not loving/not being a fan(hate is the word used)?

    So you're misleading his question, there is a lot of states btw hating and loving.

    This thread is a perfect example of his haters.
    Because of his fans doe, I used to be a fan doe.

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    • BoxingIsGreat
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      #92
      Originally posted by BillyBoxing
      He doesn't ask why people don't love him.

      TS asks why hating/being an active hater wich is not the same as just "not loving/not being a fan(hate is the word used)?

      So you're misleading his question, there is a lot of states btw hating and loving.

      This thread is a perfect example of his haters.
      Because of his fans doe, I used to be a fan doe.

      This is the topic starter's question: "Is there a way you can hate Lomachenko without being biased?" No one can hate him without being biased. He's saying there's no way to hate Loma, meaning all must like/love him. I'm misleading nothing.

      There are many reasons to dislike/hate Loma: Some people don't like his style (not me), others think he's way too overhyped without proving much (Russell is his biggest win. Lol), has a loss to a classic journeyman in Salido (2nd fight tho- we are supposed to forget his extensive 400 amateur fights when it doesn't serve), and was put down by a C-level guy like Linares, who has himself been KOed 3 times by bums.

      I'm sure others can add more.

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        #93
        Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat
        This is the topic starter's question: "Is there a way you can hate Lomachenko without being biased?" No one can hate him without being biased. He's saying there's no way to hate Loma, meaning all must like/love him. I'm misleading nothing.

        There are many reasons to dislike/hate Loma: Some people don't like his style (not me), others think he's way too overhyped without proving much (Russell is his biggest win. Lol), has a loss to a classic journeyman in Salido (2nd fight tho- we are supposed to forget his extensive 400 amateur fights when it doesn't serve), and was put down by a C-level guy like Linares, who has himself been KOed 3 times by bums.

        I'm sure others can add more.
        I think linares is a solid B fighter but to say hes a bum because hes been koes 3 times is like saying any ATG is a bum because every single one has been KOed.

        Unless you also think floyd is a god and the greatest gift to boxing too?

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          #94
          Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat
          This is the topic starter's question: "Is there a way you can hate Lomachenko without being biased?" No one can hate him without being biased. He's saying there's no way to hate Loma, meaning all must like/love him. I'm misleading nothing.

          There are many reasons to dislike/hate Loma: Some people don't like his style (not me), others think he's way too overhyped without proving much (Russell is his biggest win. Lol), has a loss to a classic journeyman in Salido (2nd fight tho- we are supposed to forget his extensive 400 amateur fights when it doesn't serve), and was put down by a C-level guy like Linares, who has himself been KOed 3 times by bums.

          I'm sure others can add more.
          See that's another example. Forget the fans. Fans of every fighter act ****** af so I don't put that into regard. You said people would hate him because he has a loss. How would any real boxing fan care about what happened to a fighter early on in his career? Linares is also not a C-level fighter show some respect to world champions of the sweet science.

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            #95
            Originally posted by Vegemil
            See that's another example. Forget the fans. Fans of every fighter act ****** af so I don't put that into regard. You said people would hate him because he has a loss. How would any real boxing fan care about what happened to a fighter early on in his career? Linares is also not a C-level fighter show some respect to world champions of the sweet science.
            Losses are very important in boxing. Without the opposition, there's no way to evaluate how good a fighter is.

            Losing to a bum (never used this word lightly before, except in extreme situations to make a point) like Salido, and being put down and going life and death with Linares, is not a good look. Should we only look at their wins then?

            Linares is a C- at best. I was being generous.
            Last edited by BoxingIsGreat; 10-28-2018, 11:26 AM.

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              #96
              Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
              If you tell me how fans hype and rate fighter doesn't influence how you feel about a fighter, i'll call you a liar. It's human nature to dislike what and the cause they don't agree with.
              Sign me up with the liars.

              I don't find it difficult to dislike a fanbase and like the fighter. I was a Floydette or whatever y'all call the Floyd hardcore base. It was very difficult to be amongst other Floyd fans. It still is sometimes.


              I do find it difficult to get behind, seriously behind, most fighters so their fan bases kind of don't matter yet because I'm not that into these kids.

              For me it's a short list. Mayweather, Ward, Wilder. Mayweather's base was cultlike. Ward's fans always seemed cool to me until Ward beat Kovalev twice and in both times a good portion came out of the woodwork to pretend they've been with Dre for a long time and troll on the same level as the Krusher whiners. Wilder's fans are cool to me, playful if anything.

              Don't care for the cult of Joshua but I was hating on Joshua since before Whyte so there's no real conflict there.

              Can't stand the Povetkin crowd but I couldn't stand Povetkin's ***** ass prior to him having a crowd.

              Khan's fans suck but do does Khan's china chinned ass.

              I tend to dislike fighters before I meet the fan bases that support them and dislike their fans as much as the fighters.

              So the only time it's ever even been an issue is Mayweather and it just never really bothered me that I agree with haters more often than fans. Money is not Mendoza, Armstrong, or Robinson, but he is TBE. I don't have others who share that so I'm fine with agreeing when people moan about Floyd not being Robinson.

              I think maybe you spend too much time being a socialite.

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                #97
                Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat
                Losses are very important in boxing. Without the opposition, there's no way to evaluate how good a fighter is.

                Losing to a bum (never used this word lightly before, except in extreme situations to make a point) like Salido, and being put down and going life and death with Linares, is not a good look. Should we only look at their wins then?

                Linares is a C- at best. I was being generous.
                You got to explain to me how he was life and death with linares because I didnt even see it. After the KD it took loma 1 full round to slow down any momentum Linares got and regained 100% control. You can tell because in the 7th linares came out and stood in the middle of the ring and tried to force Lomachenko in the ropes. But then before you knew what even happened loma was in control.

                That's like saying floyd is trash because he got mauled by fighters like Castillo and Maidaina who are legit C class dudes.

                Size was the big factor in Loma vs linares.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by Vegemil
                  He seems like a fighter you can't hate. Fights well, doesn't talk ****, and fights for legacy.

                  Somebody give me a legitimate reason for not liking him.
                  You have to hate all people equally.

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                  • Vegemil
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat
                    Losses are very important in boxing. Without the opposition, there's no way to evaluate how good a fighter is.

                    Losing to a bum (never used this word lightly before, except in extreme situations to make a point) like Salido, and being put down and going life and death with Linares, is not a good look. Should we only look at their wins then?

                    Linares is a C- at best. I was being generous.
                    This isn't a video game. Fighters are human beings that grow with their experiences. Lomachenko is small for 135 but you detract from him for taking the risk to move up another weight class? Tell me that a prime Salido would beat this Loma now.

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                      #100
                      Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat
                      Does your friend know that Loma has a loss against a double digit loss, classic journeyman?

                      O he does....but he has a list of excuses.....he was hitting below the waiste, his second fight.....the usual excuses

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