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  • IceTrayDaGang
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    #201
    Originally posted by Mzembe
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    I am not sure what kind of reasoning you hold dude!! In my post above I have not accused or even suggested PAC is a juicer. I have focused on the disadvantages his opponents were given (catch weights) and the BUMS that he has fought while there were bigger and better names to fight.

    When you try to compare Spence to PAC it clearly shows you have ZERO knowledge about boxing.
    Spence won the IBF belt last year from Kell Brooks and is only 28 years old. He has repeatedly called out current legit belt holders and is not tied to any promotional giant so his fights can be easily made. He has also fought twice after his IBF win. In the next two years if he does not unify or fight the top WW then we can say he is avoiding or cherry picking his fights.

    PAC has literally been cherry picking fights since he moved up to 135 to fight David Diaz hence my list above. If you can respond to that list and the facts that I've listed then we can have a debate but you choose to act like an obtuse neanderthal by giving false equivalencies that have nothing to do with the discussion on this thread which means you literally know nothing about boxing. Are you a Filipino? If the answer is yes please don't bother responding because you guys are known for your illogical love for your pinoy idol
    no im not and wtf does that gotta do with any of this? that just goes to show how small you are. sukk my diikkk biiatch!

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    • Bronx2245
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      #202
      Originally posted by dibzvincent143
      JMM was basically pacquiao’s kryptonite at any division base on style alone. They could fight at 160 and it’d still be a close war. Marquez just got his number and Pac only manages to make it close out of physical talent. That’s why I don’t get this “they are made for each other” notion, as only Pac’s style plays towards Marquez’s.

      I do not believe Marquez can beat the cotto, margarito, mosley and clottey that Pac fought. The same way Pac outclassed Bradley at an advance age and Marquez couldn’t.

      28-31 was prime pacquiao. But according to his haters here he was roiding at that time and basically had no prime.
      I just think it's DISRESPECTFUL to say "Prime Manny" would "WALK" through Errol Spence, Bud Crawford, and Keith Thurman! I don't even think a "Prime Mayweather" would "WALK" through Those 3!

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      • Bronx2245
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        #203
        Originally posted by HumanBag
        Marquez has always been pac's nemesis his perfect anti thesis. Mentioning bradley in this seems like you're suggesting the triangle theory but manny whooped bradleys ass for three fights first one was a robbery. Current top welters today vs pac are just mythical matchups but i would have edge it pac as he was more hungry back then. Spence would have had trouble against his speed and angles,against crawford i got it 60-40 to pac, thurman may be his biggest challenge, danny will be easy and porter would be reverted back to a sparring partner. Marquez "ending" pacs prime years don't have anything to do with how he will perform against others. We all know one can look good fighting one guy yet look terrible on another. Style makes fights
        Pac beat Bradley in the first fight, but he didn't WALK through Bradley! He never WALKED through JMM. Pac went 12 with JMM, Clottey, Mosely, Margarito, Rios, and Algieri! That's not WALKING through people! The use of that term by Roach is very DISRESPECTFUL!

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        • Mzembe
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          #204
          Originally posted by .WesternChamp.
          no im not and wtf does that gotta do with any of this? that just goes to show how small you are. sukk my diikkk biiatch!
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          Everything that I wrote and you respond to the one rhetoric question of whether you are Filipino? A question that wasn't important at all but it's the one that you respond. Respond to the relevant points dude.

          Seriously? Who is the small minded buffoon that likes his **** ****** by men? Clearly that's what you like.

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          • Mzembe
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            #205
            Originally posted by .WesternChamp.
            im not accusing you of saying he's juicing. im explaining to you that now yall downplaying the opponents pac won during that time calling it a 145 cotto, drained oscar, etc. saying its not impressive. but those were the fights were pac got accused of juicing because of how he ran thru them. do you get it now?

            and dont fool yourself. spence beat a drained handicap one eye brook who just took a beating from ggg at 154 then have to drop back down to 147. wow, impressive huh? come at me!
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            What is wrong with you dude? Do you understand English? In all seriousness, stop comparing Spence to Pac. The guy holds a WW title and is trying to make the big fights against the top WW. He is also just 28 years old so his time is happening now. It's way too soon to compare his career to PAC. Let's have this conversation in two years. It is moot right now.

            As for PAC I am putting an asterisk on his wins because of those reasons not because he is a juicer. Juicing does not make a boxer better so I don't buy into those allegations.

            I am also highlighting PAC's wins against bonafide BUMS and I listed them for you. How do you justify those fights? And why couldn't PAC fight legit belt holders in his prime at 140 and 147? These are simple questions. Can you answer them without deflecting to non-factor issues?

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            • pasawayako
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              #206
              Originally posted by Mzembe
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              Right, they would never fight BUMS like Brandon Rios or Mathysse or Jeff Horn or Algieri or David Diaz.
              They would never fight the Bradley 3 times
              They would never fight Morales 3 times
              They would never fight Bradley 3 times
              They would never fight Marquez 4 times

              Those are 13 fights against 4 guys. The reason the rematches happened was because those were all close fights and Manny lost to Morales and got KO by Marquez and had close fights with the others. A great fighter like PAC should have destroyed all those guys.

              A great fighter like PAC should have made fights with any of the current WW boxers when he could but he ducked all of them and continued to cherry pick bums.

              Your name suggests you are a Filipino so if PAC was fart you would say it smells really good. If he was to poop you would say it looks so delicious and smells like cheese cake.
              You also probably think PAC is the greatest Senator in the history of the Phillipines politics, right?
              Sorry, no matter how hard you try to downplay or hate pac there's no one in history of boxing from past to present can do what pac had done in his prime. Even a self proclaimed TBE couldn't believed that pac could the unbelievable.

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              • pasawayako
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                #207
                Originally posted by Bronx2245
                I just think it's DISRESPECTFUL to say "Prime Manny" would "WALK" through Errol Spence, Bud Crawford, and Keith Thurman! I don't even think a "Prime Mayweather" would "WALK" through Those 3!
                A prime mayweather run from everyone.

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                • dibzvincent143
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                  #208
                  Originally posted by Bronx2245
                  I just think it's DISRESPECTFUL to say "Prime Manny" would "WALK" through Errol Spence, Bud Crawford, and Keith Thurman! I don't even think a "Prime Mayweather" would "WALK" through Those 3!
                  Yes i think it’s an overstatement as well since Manny will be the smaller dude against most those guys at the time he went to welter. He’ll be the favorite to win though for sure.

                  Stylewise crawford would be the most difficult to deal with imo.

                  Those guys in their prime will be the best wins of manny and Floyd at welter as well.

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                  • Roadblock
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                    #209
                    Originally posted by Mzembe
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                    What is wrong with you dude? Do you understand English? In all seriousness, stop comparing Spence to Pac. The guy holds a WW title and is trying to make the big fights against the top WW. He is also just 28 years old so his time is happening now. It's way too soon to compare his career to PAC. Let's have this conversation in two years. It is moot right now.

                    As for PAC I am putting an asterisk on his wins because of those reasons not because he is a juicer. Juicing does not make a boxer better so I don't buy into those allegations.

                    I am also highlighting PAC's wins against bonafide BUMS and I listed them for you. How do you justify those fights? And why couldn't PAC fight legit belt holders in his prime at 140 and 147? These are simple questions. Can you answer them without deflecting to non-factor issues?
                    Your talking to pac fanboys that are 12 and as thick as a brick its best to wipe them like a dirty ass.

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                    • HumanBag
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                      #210
                      Originally posted by Bronx2245
                      Pac beat Bradley in the first fight, but he didn't WALK through Bradley! He never WALKED through JMM. Pac went 12 with JMM, Clottey, Mosely, Margarito, Rios, and Algieri! That's not WALKING through people! The use of that term by Roach is very DISRESPECTFUL!
                      Well if you put it that way it sounds like roach is just begging to be back on pac's team.

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