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  • IceTrayDaGang
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    #181
    Originally posted by Mzembe
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    PAC's prime was 2008-2010??

    Look at the list of guys he beat -

    - an old and weight drained Oscar. Oscar hadn't fought at 147 in over 5 years. The only reason people demand catch weight is so they can have a clear advantage. Without it, they get beat up and Freddie Roach has said that many many times. Oscar had also gotten beat up by Floyd so left overs.
    - David Diaz for 135Ib title but who the fudge is Diaz?? Seriously, ask any PAC fan who PAC fought at 135 and they all look ******ed.
    - Clottey: Seriously? That's your measure of greatness
    - Hatton: Floyd's left overs again


    Which "prime" do you guys mean?
    The prime PAC that got beat by Barrera?
    The prime PAC that couldn't beat Marquez 4 times and eventually got knocked the fudge out (after being dropped once) in the last fight?
    The same PAC that fought a weight drained Cotto at a catch weight of 145?
    The same PAC that fought a weight drained Margarito at a catch weight of 150?
    The same prime PAC that fought Mosley right after Mosley had been beaten by Mayweather? Prior to that fight Mosley had never been beaten so badly.
    The same prime PAC that fought Bradley 3 times?
    The same PAC that fought Morales 3 times?
    The same PAC that fought Barrera 2 times?
    The same PAC that fought Brandon Rios? After Rios had literally lost a fight?
    The same PAC that fought a virtual unknown Algieri?
    The same PAC that fought a virtual unknown Jeff Horn and still lost anyway?
    The same PAC that fought a BUM in Mathysse?
    The same PAC that fought David Diaz for a fringe title at 135Ibs?

    Which weight has PAC ever dominated? There were so many fights that could have been made at 147 but he chose to fight BUMS.

    So exactly which version of PAC would dominate anyone and when he got an old Mayweather in 2015 he got beat and came up with the usual excuses we hear from beaten boxers. Do you need a list of boxers that have made excuses after a loss?

    Now, go ahead and call me names instead of responding to the above FACTS.
    look at the guys he beat?? isnt that the reason why he got accused of juicing because he ran thru all of them?? now its their old, etc? lol!!! cant even make this up! lol. if pac fought bums then what do we call the opponents spence has fought? cab drivers? lol

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    • IceTrayDaGang
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      #182
      Originally posted by pasawayako
      The only fighter in the history of the sport that a very small ww in his prime is walking through the bigger ww that's why even a self proclaimed TBE couldn't believe that there is such a fighter that could exist in boxing.
      you see how they try to downplay pac's run?

      now they are saying it was cotto at 145, a drained oscar, etc. but those were the fights where pac got accused of juicing because of the way he whooped on those guys lol!!!

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        #183
        travs dumb ass. you know that was a typo and i meant to say brook! these mofo trying to pick out the smallest mistake lol.

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        • littlemac
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          #184
          Roach forgot to mention a pre USADA Pacman could walk through everyone 147er on the same night.

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            #185
            Originally posted by littlemac
            Roach forgot to mention a pre USADA Pacman could walk through everyone 147er on the same night.
            i think you meant to say swollen ******* spence

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            • dibzvincent143
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              #186
              Originally posted by Bronx2245
              28-34 year old Pacquiao! Timothy Bradley beat Marquez at WW! JMM was no killer @ 147! He just destroyed a PRIME Manny Pacquiao! Errol Spence Jr. would've destroyed a prime Pacquiao @ 147! Bud Crawford and a prime Pacquiao would be a 50-50 fight at 147! PRIME Pacquiao does not WALK through PRIME Thurman, Spence, Porter, Danny Garcia, or Crawford! Freddie is trippin'!
              JMM was basically pacquiao’s kryptonite at any division base on style alone. They could fight at 160 and it’d still be a close war. Marquez just got his number and Pac only manages to make it close out of physical talent. That’s why I don’t get this “they are made for each other” notion, as only Pac’s style plays towards Marquez’s.

              I do not believe Marquez can beat the cotto, margarito, mosley and clottey that Pac fought. The same way Pac outclassed Bradley at an advance age and Marquez couldn’t.

              28-31 was prime pacquiao. But according to his haters here he was roiding at that time and basically had no prime.

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                #187
                Originally posted by dibzvincent143
                JMM was basically pacquiao’s kryptonite at any division base on style alone. They could fight at 160 and it’d still be a close war. Marquez just got his number and Pac only manages to make it close out of physical talent. That’s why I don’t get this “they are made for each other” notion, as only Pac’s style plays towards Marquez’s.

                I do not believe Marquez can beat the cotto, margarito, mosley and clottey that Pac fought. The same way Pac outclassed Bradley at an advance age and Marquez couldn’t.

                28-31 was prime pacquiao. But according to his haters here he was roiding at that time and basically had no prime.
                exactly!!!! they try to downplay it now by saying he only fought cotto at 145, and he fought a drained oscar, but those were the fights where they accused him of being on the juice because of what he did to those guys.

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                  #188
                  Originally posted by .WesternChamp.
                  exactly!!!! they try to downplay it now by saying he only fought cotto at 145, and he fought a drained oscar, but those were the fights where they accused him of being on the juice because of what he did to those guys.
                  He slowed down around 32-33 as most offensive juggernauts throughout in history did. 🤷🏻*♂️
                  It’s actually amazing how pac managed to stay this long given his style during his prime. Doesn’t change the fact that I want him to retire asap though unless it’s just for the Khan’s and broner’s of the world.

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                    #189
                    Originally posted by Bronx2245
                    28-34 year old Pacquiao! Timothy Bradley beat Marquez at WW! JMM was no killer @ 147! He just destroyed a PRIME Manny Pacquiao! Errol Spence Jr. would've destroyed a prime Pacquiao @ 147! Bud Crawford and a prime Pacquiao would be a 50-50 fight at 147! PRIME Pacquiao does not WALK through PRIME Thurman, Spence, Porter, Danny Garcia, or Crawford! Freddie is trippin'!
                    Marquez has always been pac's nemesis his perfect anti thesis. Mentioning bradley in this seems like you're suggesting the triangle theory but manny whooped bradleys ass for three fights first one was a robbery. Current top welters today vs pac are just mythical matchups but i would have edge it pac as he was more hungry back then. Spence would have had trouble against his speed and angles,against crawford i got it 60-40 to pac, thurman may be his biggest challenge, danny will be easy and porter would be reverted back to a sparring partner. Marquez "ending" pacs prime years don't have anything to do with how he will perform against others. We all know one can look good fighting one guy yet look terrible on another. Style makes fights

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                    • pasawayako
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                      #190
                      I hope peds can produce such that kind of fighter. But the truth is pac is a once in a lifetime fighter that every nation can only dreamed of. No fighter in the past up to present can do what what pac had done in his prime.

                      Even if u gave crawford,spence, floyd etc. every peds in the world they could never do what pac had done in his prime.

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