Comments Thread For: Roach Says a Prime Pacquiao 'Walks Through' Everyone at 147

[IceTrayDaGang]

Floyd. LeBron. Has nothing to do with the discussion. Everytime you bring someone else up it tells me you are in your feelings because I posted something factual that you can't refute/ So you deflect to something else.

I went with your opinion of prime manny. I posted his resume during that period. That resume doesn't suggest he could run through the current WW's right now. Anyone saying it does is either a manny ****sucker or someone that has a distorted view of the resume during that period.

once again cant answer shiiet so start deflecting saying they dont matter.

how does that resume doesnt suggest he could run thru the current WWs?? you havent explain this?? what or who has the current WWs done that makes you think manny wont be able to run thru them???????

[The Big Dunn]

no. because you brought up those names that manny WON and try to downplay it by saying he'll lose to the current WWs, when the current WWs hasnt even fought anyone close to those names yet!! do you see it now???

You are doing that. You are treating ODH like he was Prime HOF ODH when he wasn't that guy when he fought Manny. That ODH isn't even a top 15 WW right now dude. He was 35 and hadn't been at WW in 8 years.

Names mean nothing, its where they were as fighters when the fights happened.

[IceTrayDaGang]

You are doing that. You are treating ODH like he was Prime HOF ODH when he wasn't that guy when he fought Manny. That ODH isn't even a top 15 WW right now dude. He was 35 and hadn't been at WW in 8 years.

Names mean nothing, its where they were as fighters when the fights happened.

im not!!! when did i said he was prime???

and even that oscar is better than the comp spence beat!!

who did spence beat that makes you think manny wont be able to run thru him? you still havent answer this.

you just kept saying his height, reach, etc. but that's just you assuming. where as for pac, he's already fought taller guys, longer reach, etc. and he won!! there's no assuming here. you see the difference now?

[The Big Dunn]

can you explain to me how cotto was not better or more accomplished than spence in 2009????? in 2009 cotto never won any belts? in 2009, cotto was still green??? LOL!!

Cotto was 32-1 was a JWW and WW champ (2x). He was a top 10 p4p fighter. He was 8-1 at ww. wins over Zab, shane, clottey and loss to Margs.

Spence right now is 24-0, IBF champ and a top 10 p4p fighter.

Cotto has much better resume.

once again cant answer shiiet so start deflecting saying they dont matter.

how does that resume doesnt suggest he could run thru the current WWs?? you havent explain this?? what or who has the current WWs done that makes you think manny wont be able to run thru them???????

You supported the claim Manny could run through the current WW's. I posted his WW resume during the time period you asked. Manny beat 1 WW during that time that are better than the current crop, and he did that at 145, not 147.

You have to prove he can. You basically are saying they never beat a WW as good as Manny so why can't manny beat them.

Uh Manny didn't beat WW's as good as them. So wouldn't the same thing apply?

Manny was an ATG but his prime Ww resume is not such that he can just beat the current crop of WW's.

If you said the current crop of 124-130 lbers, ok that is different.

Not WW. Stop inflating the resume beyond what it is.

[The Big Dunn]

im not!!! when did i said he was prime???

and even that oscar is better than the comp spence beat!!

who did spence beat that makes you think manny wont be able to run thru him? you still havent answer this.

you just kept saying his height, reach, etc. but that's just you assuming. where as for pac, he's already fought taller guys, longer reach, etc. and he won!! there's no assuming here. you see the difference now?

If you don't get the difference between Spence and Clottey then there is no point to keep discussing this. Manny beat stand still bums. Spence is not that. Clottey was never seen as one of the 5-7 best fighters in the world like Spence.

It's me taking into consideration everything. Again, prime WW manny fought 35 yr old ODH, and Clottey at 147 and Cotto at 145 (who didn't have his trainer because he went with Manny).

That isn't a resume that indicates in his prime he's running through Spence, Thurman, Porter and Danny.

[IceTrayDaGang]

Cotto was 32-1 was a JWW and WW champ (2x). He was a top 10 p4p fighter. He was 8-1 at ww. wins over Zab, shane, clottey and loss to Margs.

Spence right now is 24-0, IBF champ and a top 10 p4p fighter.

Cotto has much better resume.



You supported the claim Manny could run through the current WW's. I posted his WW resume during the time period you asked. Manny beat 1 WW during that time that are better than the current crop, and he did that at 145, not 147.

You have to prove he can. You basically are saying they never beat a WW as good as Manny so why can't manny beat them.

Uh Manny didn't beat WW's as good as them. So wouldn't the same thing apply?

Manny was an ATG but his prime Ww resume is not such that he can just beat the current crop of WW's.

If you said the current crop of 124-130 lbers, ok that is different.

Not WW. Stop inflating the resume beyond what it is.

look who spence fought!!!!!

and who did spence beat at WWs that makes you think manny wont be able to run thru him? you posted the fighters manny fought and said pac wont be able to run thru spence now give me the fighters spence fought that makes you think pac wont be able to run thru him? watch your not gonna do this. your gonna go back to saying "bringing up names doesnt work".

[IceTrayDaGang]

If you don't get the difference between Spence and Clottey then there is no point to keep discussing this. Manny beat stand still bums. Spence is not that. Clottey was never seen as one of the 5-7 best fighters in the world like Spence.

It's me taking into consideration everything. Again, prime WW manny fought 35 yr old ODH, and Clottey at 147 and Cotto at 145 (who didn't have his trainer because he went with Manny).

That isn't a resume that indicates in his prime he's running through Spence, Thurman, Porter and Danny.

im not comparing spence to clottey. im asking you who has spence fought that is on the same tier as those guys????!!!

[IceTrayDaGang]

If you don't get the difference between Spence and Clottey then there is no point to keep discussing this. Manny beat stand still bums. Spence is not that. Clottey was never seen as one of the 5-7 best fighters in the world like Spence.

It's me taking into consideration everything. Again, prime WW manny fought 35 yr old ODH, and Clottey at 147 and Cotto at 145 (who didn't have his trainer because he went with Manny).

That isn't a resume that indicates in his prime he's running through Spence, Thurman, Porter and Danny.

so tell me spence resume that makes you think manny wont be able to run thru him. you keep dodging this saying bringing up names doesnt work like that but you did it with manny!

[IceTrayDaGang]

If you don't get the difference between Spence and Clottey then there is no point to keep discussing this. Manny beat stand still bums. Spence is not that. Clottey was never seen as one of the 5-7 best fighters in the world like Spence.

It's me taking into consideration everything. Again, prime WW manny fought 35 yr old ODH, and Clottey at 147 and Cotto at 145 (who didn't have his trainer because he went with Manny).

That isn't a resume that indicates in his prime he's running through Spence, Thurman, Porter and Danny.

prime pac fought oscar, hatton, cotto, clottey and marg. destroyed them all. who did prime spence fought?

[The Big Dunn]

prime pac fought oscar, hatton, cotto, clottey and marg. destroyed them all. who did prime spence fought?

At WW. Hatton (140) and Margs (151) are not WW's.