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  • IceTrayDaGang
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    #61
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
    OK so a guy that started fighting in 1995 took 13 years to reach his prime, and then was only in his prime for 2 years. OK from 2008-2010 Manny:

    SD win over JMM that most fans and media thought he lost (130).
    KO David Diaz (135)
    ODH coming down to 147 (a weight he hadn't fought in 8 years).
    KO'd Hatton ( 140 )
    TKO Cotto (at 145)
    UD Clottey (147)
    UD Margs (151 where Margs was coming down from 154 his previous fight).

    There is no way you can suggest he'd walk through everyone at 147 with this resume. Like I posted, it seems clear the memory of Prime Manny is not realistic based on what he actually did during this time.
    yes!!! beause when he started he was at 106 or something! how the fvvk was he in his prime already???? mofos take time to develop!! you know this!! why act ******? you are trying to say manny was in his prime in 1999?? what a ******!! he hasnt even fought in the US at that time. and when he fought in the US for the first time in 2001, EVERYONE still consider him "green"!!!

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      #62
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
      OK so IYO a guy that started fighting in 1995 took 13 years to reach his prime, and then was only in his prime for 2 years. OK from 2008-2010 Manny:

      SD win over JMM that most fans and media thought he lost (130).
      KO David Diaz (135)
      KO ODH coming down to 147 (a weight he hadn't fought in 8 years).
      KO'd Hatton ( 140 )
      TKO Cotto (at 145)
      UD Clottey (147)
      UD Margs (151 where Margs was coming down from 154 his previous fight).

      There is no way you can suggest he'd walk through everyone at 147 with this resume.

      Like I posted, it seems clear the memory of Prime Manny is not realistic based on what he actually did during this time.
      and im not surprised, those names are better than any guys spence, thurman, danny, mikey, porter has fought!!!! he won all those fights.


      you bringing up those names that pac WON saying pac would not walk thru the current WWs, yet the current WWs hasnt even fought anyone on that level!! holy shiiet!! !!

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        #63
        Originally posted by .WesternChamp.
        yes!!! beause when he started he was at 106 or something! how the fvvk was he in his prime already???? mofos take time to develop!! you know this!! why act ******? you are trying to say manny was in his prime in 1999?? what a ******!! he hasnt even fought in the US at that time. and when he fought in the US for the first time in 2001, EVERYONE still consider him "green"!!!
        Stop crying. I went with what you said. You cherry picked only the small window where he didn't lose. Cool. He had 3 ww fights in his prime. The best WW he fought, he fought at 145, not a full 147.

        The other WW fights he had was a man that hadn't fought at ww in 8 years and Josh Clottey, who had lost the previous fight to Cotto.

        No matter what you say about me, the resume is what it is and this is not a resume that suggests you could run through 147.

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          #64
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn
          OK so IYO a guy that started fighting in 1995 took 13 years to reach his prime, and then was only in his prime for 2 years. OK from 2008-2010 Manny:

          SD win over JMM that most fans and media thought he lost (130).
          KO David Diaz (135)
          KO ODH coming down to 147 (a weight he hadn't fought in 8 years).
          KO'd Hatton ( 140 )
          TKO Cotto (at 145)
          UD Clottey (147)
          UD Margs (151 where Margs was coming down from 154 his previous fight).

          There is no way you can suggest he'd walk through everyone at 147 with this resume.

          Like I posted, it seems clear the memory of Prime Manny is not realistic based on what he actually did during this time.

          floyd's first fight was in 1996.. according to you, floyd was in his prime by 1999-2000? LOL!!!!

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            #65
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn
            Stop crying. I went with what you said. You cherry picked only the small window where he didn't lose. Cool. He had 3 ww fights in his prime. The best WW he fought, he fought at 145, not a full 147.

            The other WW fights he had was a man that hadn't fought at ww in 8 years and Josh Clottey, who had lost the previous fight to Cotto.

            No matter what you say about me, the resume is what it is and this is not a resume that suggests you could run through 147.
            no i didnt. you bringing up L's he took in the late 90s saying he was in his prime!! LOL!!

            how am i picking only the fights he won? im only picking 2008-2010 because that's when he's in his "prime". that doesnt mean that he wasnt good anymore after that. do you think lebron james is in his prime now??? LOL

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              #66
              Originally posted by .WesternChamp.
              and im not surprised, those names are better than any guys spence, thurman, danny, mikey, porter has fought!!!! he won all those fights.


              you bringing up those names that pac WON saying pac would not walk thru the current WWs, yet the current WWs hasnt even fought anyone on that level!! holy shiiet!! !!
              You keep doing the network casual fan stuff. You want to apply Manny's non WW resume to WW and it doesn't work. I will leave Mikey out because he hasn't fought at 147.

              His WW prime resume has been listed. Spence, Thurman (when healthy), Danny and Porter are all better than the ODH and Clottey that Manny fought.

              Cotto is better than Thurman, Danny and Porter. He is not better or more accomplished than Spence (again not all time, at the time Manny fought him).

              You are trying to take the Manny that beat Barrera and project him at WW. Can't do that. You have to go with WW Manny and his WW resume.

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                #67
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                You keep doing the network casual fan stuff. You want to apply Manny's non WW resume to WW and it doesn't work. I will leave Mikey out because he hasn't fought at 147.

                His WW prime resume is what it is. Spence, Thurman (when healthy), Danny and Porter are all better and more accomplished than the ODH and Clottey that Manny fought.

                Cotto is better than Thurman, Danny and Porter. He is not better or more accomplished than Spence (again not all time, at the time Manny fought him).

                You are trying to take the Manny that beat Barrera and project him at WW. Can't do that. You have to go with WW Manny and his WW resume.
                no. because you brought up those names that manny WON and try to downplay it by saying he'll lose to the current WWs, when the current WWs hasnt even fought anyone close to those names yet!! do you see it now???

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                  You keep doing the network casual fan stuff. You want to apply Manny's non WW resume to WW and it doesn't work. I will leave Mikey out because he hasn't fought at 147.

                  His WW prime resume has been listed. Spence, Thurman (when healthy), Danny and Porter are all better than the ODH and Clottey that Manny fought.

                  Cotto is better than Thurman, Danny and Porter. He is not better or more accomplished than Spence (again not all time, at the time Manny fought him).

                  You are trying to take the Manny that beat Barrera and project him at WW. Can't do that. You have to go with WW Manny and his WW resume.
                  once again, how was cotto not more accomplished than spence in 2009? so you are telling me cotto got better after 2009? wtf?? do you hear yourself? its the hate man. lol

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by .WesternChamp.
                    no i didnt. you bringing up L's he took in the late 90s saying he was in his prime!! LOL!!

                    how am i picking only the fights he won? im only picking 2008-2010 because that's when he's in his "prime". that doesnt mean that he wasnt good anymore after that. do you think lebron james is in his prime now??? LOL
                    Floyd. LeBron. Has nothing to do with the discussion. Everytime you bring someone else up it tells me you are in your feelings because I posted something factual that you can't refute/ So you deflect to something else.

                    I went with your opinion of prime manny. I posted his resume during that period. That resume doesn't suggest he could run through the current WW's right now. Anyone saying it does is either a manny ****sucker or someone that has a distorted view of the resume during that period.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                      You keep doing the network casual fan stuff. You want to apply Manny's non WW resume to WW and it doesn't work. I will leave Mikey out because he hasn't fought at 147.

                      His WW prime resume has been listed. Spence, Thurman (when healthy), Danny and Porter are all better than the ODH and Clottey that Manny fought.

                      Cotto is better than Thurman, Danny and Porter. He is not better or more accomplished than Spence (again not all time, at the time Manny fought him).

                      You are trying to take the Manny that beat Barrera and project him at WW. Can't do that. You have to go with WW Manny and his WW resume.
                      can you explain to me how cotto was not better or more accomplished than spence in 2009????? in 2009 cotto never won any belts? in 2009, cotto was still green??? LOL!!

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