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  • #61
    Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
    Randomly comments like this is exactly why Haymon needs to come out of the shadows more. He needs to come out verbally smack some mfers around with whats really happening & then go back under for 12-18 months. People & I myself have said managers & people in Haymon's position often don't talk to the media, but the thing is Haymon is just a regular manager type guy. He's transcended the sport & he's a unique player vs the other players in this game. He's one of a kind in this sphere. He needs to own that sh^t & just talk to the media every now & again just to let mfers know whats up so they can't step on his name in public like Bob & Eddie & some others do so casually. I feel like Haymon can hold his own & them some with his genuine mfer persona that isn't about a lot of bs. But thats just my opinion as a Haymon fan who believes he's allowing his brand to be defined by dipsh^ts & it also hurts the PBC brand & his fighters by having these things in the media all the time without any retort by him.
    It’s obvious Haymon could care less what promoters , writers or dipsh.its on the Internet say about him

    He seems to only care about business and gaining as much power as possible in the sport and getting his fighters the most $ possible

    At this point Haymon staying in the shadows is probably the best strategy , he’s built up a Kaiser Sosay mystique around him which makes him appear more powerful, why f.uck it up and start doing interviews

    It’s clear certain media , promoters and fans are against him and most likely it has to do with him controlling most of the top end American talent and now having 2 networks at his disposal not exactly a sign that his brand is hurting or being defined by the nay sayers

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    • #62
      can't see this one happening anytime soon.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
        I mean DAZN just paid Canelo $33.5M to fight Rocky Fielding. Lets not act like there isn't a bunch of overpaying mfers going on lately. Actually if you follow the announced purses PBC guys seem like the lowest paid these days. Bud is making $4M iirc vs a guy who shot a couple years back. Now idk what those Haymon 2nd checks look like, but the above board announced purses & deals are saying ESPN & DAZN got deeper pockets right now.
        DANZ is front-loading the initial signee’s to entice others to join.

        But the moment he signs a few more top names to large contracts, we’ll see the contracts of the late-comers get nothing but bird feed.

        Always a (top 1 or 2 % pyramid scheme)

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Sosay View Post
          This dude needs to die already.
          True

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          • #65
            WOW! "The Cancer" would be the one who said "Manny is scared of needles," "We need an outdoor stadium," "Manny has cuts that haven't healed!" Bob has a short memory!

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            • #66
              Lmao! ARUM is butt hurt that PAC signed with HAYMON and PBC.

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              • #67
                The corrupt relationship between Top Rank and the WBO is a real cancer.

                When is Steve Kim or any other boxing journalist going to do an in-depth investigative article on that?

                Part of the boxing media's role is supposed to be to act like a watchdog. Not to be bought and paid for and in the pockets of the promoters.

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                • #68
                  Bob Arum was the Cancer that prevented the May/Pac fight since 2009. The first offer was 50-50 with no testing, and Arum turned it down, so Floyd fought JMM, who called him out instead. After Arum saw the result of that, it was roadblock after roadblock. Hearn has learned from him well, and is very deserving to wear the nickname British Bob.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by SugarRaRobinson View Post
                    DANZ is front-loading the initial signee’s to entice others to join.

                    But the moment he signs a few more top names to large contracts, we’ll see the contracts of the late-comers get nothing but bird feed.

                    Always a (top 1 or 2 % pyramid scheme)
                    Idk about that. I think they are paying Canelo what they have to pay him. But its still overpaying him. I suspect they've had to overpay Tevin Farmer & Boo Boo & others at the level they are at.

                    And they'll continue to do that cuz ESPN has a long term deal with Arum & idr how long the Fox/Haymon deal is but I'm assuming thats a few years to so this competition sh^t isn't going away anytime soon & if there is competition you're still gonna have to pay more to acquire talent & to keep talent.

                    So I think late comers are gonna be getting equal or perhaps better deals if, vs the consensus of what their value actual is, if the competition gets bigger or more players enter the game.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by R_Walken View Post
                      It’s obvious Haymon could care less what promoters , writers or dipsh.its on the Internet say about him
                      He should. It damages his product.

                      He seems to only care about business and gaining as much power as possible in the sport and getting his fighters the most $ possible

                      At this point Haymon staying in the shadows is probably the best strategy , he’s built up a Kaiser Sosay mystique around him which makes him appear more powerful, why f.uck it up and start doing interviews
                      Honestly I don't even know that its even a strategy. Part of me thinks this guy gots social anxiety or OCD or some weird lil thing like that. But I think PBC is in desperate need of a public facing guy talking about PBC. Sam Watson isn't really that. Tim Smith isn't really that. Seeing Al Haymon is like a bigfoot sighting. This is all weirdo sh^t. And Haymon doing some Real Sports kinda thing would be huge is he's talking about the right stuff. Its like that Silent Bob strategy in Kevin Smith movies. Dude don't say sh^t the whole movie & then when he does say sh^t it packs 10x the punch cuz he's been silent the whole time.

                      It’s clear certain media , promoters and fans are against him and most likely it has to do with him controlling most of the top end American talent and now having 2 networks at his disposal not exactly a sign that his brand is hurting or being defined by the nay sayers
                      I can understand that stance, but I still see all this effed up sh^t from all these dipsh^ts & you never got anyone with power at PBC saying how dipsh^tish these cats are. All this stuff just sorta lingers in the air for longer than it should because the PBC has no offense or defense with sh^t like this. And fair play with being "bigger" then alot of this silly sh^t, but its not even just these dipsh^t insults its in general PBC needs someone pushing the PBC narrative better. They better put on some sorta PBC show on FS1 thats doing more story & narrative building type sh^t so everything & every boxer just isn't in limbo, like my man Spence & Tank right now, until they just randomly aren't in limbo anymore & have a fight 6 weeks from now.

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