Comments Thread For: Derevyanchenko: GGG Wasn't Scared; Team Had Another Plan

[Shadoww702]

ahh, one of the ****** Canelo fans that fit the description to a tee. I actually think the fight is close to 50/50 but either way, I hope you bet the loser since you clearly haven't learned your lesson. You lost your wife, home and life savings when you bet on Oscar to beat mosley. You already have no self respect. So what's left for you to lose? Other than your ******ity?

50/50??? Then pick one? Go with your gut/Kunt.

[Shadoww702]

Are we talking about the same Ward Kovalev dropped and beat? And is that the same Kovalev GGG dropped in sparring?

You might be onto something here...

Canelo also lost sparring GGG then made him cry running out the ring looking like an extra from TWD.

[TonyGe]

Hey ******. I bet you $500 he lasts longer than Vanes did...

He's definitely going to last longer than Vanes. LOL...

[Slyder9213]

Honest question, are you serious? Why does anyone really try and say GGG ducked Ward...it's obvious when looking at that situation that Ward was the one who didn't want the fight more (though to be fair I could see how neither guy/team would want that fight...good for legacy with hardcore fans but there was no money in it and one guy would take an L and lose his undefeated record, which sells).

And saying Ward was willing to come down to 164? I mean come on lol...he never negotiated on anything in his whole career, everything (super six/where he fought/weight with Dawson fight where he made Dawson come down to 168 instead of 172 or 175).

If we as fight fans want to see the best fight the best...we have to put aside our biases when analyzing these situations...at that time Ward was coming off of injuries/surgeries/suing his promoter multiple times...and also has a history of dropping belts rather than facing someone, and even his biggest supporters would surely admit he is notorious for being very hard to deal with/negotiate a fight with, because as a guy who grinds out decisions he knows he has a very small margin against other top fighters.

It is pretty well documented that HBO brought Ward and GGG together and GGG, as he has basically his whole career, was ready to fight. Ward citing his shoulder problems said he needed 3 warm up fights first.


Pretty good thread for information on the subject.

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=693323

I agree 100%....Ward was always overrated, and boring to watch...he didn't beat Kovalev the 1st time either, Ward is the one who picked his fights, and when GGG came up to maybe fight, Ward didn't want a part of it.....all you Whiners/haters of GGG need to get your facts straight....he IS still one of the greatest Middleweights out of all time and he is still top 5 in the world....I'm sick of the GGG haters out there..

[Bronx2245]

The difference is vanes hadnt been stopped ever and arguably won that fight gave charlo hell and fought on 3 weeks notice when he fought ggg. Monroe is washed up; has been knocked out has failed to knock out 2 journeymen since getting schooled by bjs LOL. Theres no amount of nut riding u can to do to charlo to say this isnt a trash fight and that charlo has a weak resume and 160 😂

And there's nothing you can say to change the fact that GGG vs. Vanes was a trash fight, just like GGG vs. Wade! Monroe is ranked #5 by the WBC! Decent stay busy fight for Charlo until GGG accepts the fight, or Canelo is ordered to fight Charlo!

[Bronx2245]

GGG has the fkn dumbest fans. Now shes arguing about what he did before Vanes went 3-3, moved up in weight, amd was fkn RETIRED for two whole years.

They're almost as bad as Pacquiao fans!

[Bronx2245]

I forgot about that fight! What round did Charlo KO Vanes in?

It went the full 12, and a close fight at that! That's not the Vanes that GGG fought! Not even close!

[Shadoww702]

They're almost as bad as Pacquiao fans!

Tru. But now they're flopping on Loma's nutz and I like Loma...

[Shadoww702]

It went the full 12, and a close fight at that! That's not the Vanes that GGG fought! Not even close!

Same weight class, not retired...I know smh

[aboutfkntime]

The New Jersey-based sanctioning organization ultimately granted Golovkin an exception to make an optional defense versus Vanes Martirosyan

wtf ?

no they did not

they stripped him for fighting in an unsanctioned bout