Philly to me and not even close.
Which country has the most nationalistic d*ckriding fanboys?
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After Hatton lost to Mayweather, his popularity did take a hit in the UK. He became the butt of jokes and got nicknamed Ricky Fatton by the UK press. Even before the Pac KO.
There's also Tyson Fury, who is quite unpopular in the UK. And then there's Amir Khan and Kell Brook, both of whom have their legions of haters in the UK.
While UK fans do tend to support their fighters more than most other countries, UK fans do bash their fighters as well.Comment
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You missed out arguably the worst example of English racism in modern boxing history:The very first international pugilistic contest after Rome banned boxing took place in England featuring an English 'champion' vs a Venetian 'champion'. Champion meant something different back then and was more reflective of a representative than how we think of champion.
Anyway the Englishman introduced a concept called flopping to the world stage. When the Venetian would throw a punch the Englishman would fall to the ground regardless of if he was hurt. This would end the round and keep the Englishman safe. The Venetian protested this was cheating but the English ref and English audience didn't see it that way. The Venetian would quit the match saying no foreigner would ever get fair treatment from the English.
Daniel Mendoza's family fled the spanish inquisition to find safety in England. Danny was born in England but is not english enough. Daniel The *** Mendoza invented the entire Floyd Mayweather handbook and based it on English racism and sense of "englishness". Who got his audience to hate him by playing into racial stereotypes? Who charged absurd prices to watch him fight? Who introduced defensive posture and position fighting? Daniel The *** Mendoza would lose his title to an English gentlemen who held Daniel by the ponytail and pounded his face until he went limp because this gentlemen nor any other Englishmen who was "truly" English had the boxing ability to catch him. The English audience and umpire cheered this act despite it being a truly egregious case of cheating. Even in 1790 it is very much illegal to hold your opponent by their hair.
Tom Cribb was knocked out for over thirty seconds by the black American Tom Molineaux. The English ref refused to count Cribb out. The English audience stormed the ring to punch, kick, scratch and bite Molineaux. The English ref saw no foul play in this. The Englishmen in attendance of that fight who really did believe fairplay was essential to English boxing award Molineaux a bronze belt. Bronze because they could not afford the gold around Cribb.
Jem Ward bought his title, fixed a whole mess of fights, ducked every man worth a lick of salt who challenged him, how a man killed in the ring, and got his own kin licked proper in fights they had no business entertaining the thought let alone actually participating. Jem Ward was able to get away with his bull**** because Jem Ward was a "proper Englishman". His main rival, the main man who Jem was always ducking, was another Englishman but he was too ****** to represent England. James Burke was a fine champion and he wasn't ****** he was just deaf. The English do have their sense of Englishness which is why Burke had to come to the US to fight the Irish Champion, O'Rourke, to claim the World Title. The English never forced Jem to stop being a ***** we just all moved on without them until they recognized our lineage.
Y'all want me to continue or have I made my point? It doesn't really matter how well England has control of boxing. It has nothing to do with them not having many champions since America took over. The English have never been fair to foreigners and when there is no foreigner to pick on they nitpick amongst themselves over who is and is not English enough or posses true English spirit.
Marvin Hagler vs. Alan Minter.
It was fought in the UK in 1980. After Hagler TKO'd Minter, the racist English hooligan crowd got aggressive and threw beer bottles at Hagler, who had to be protected by his cornermen, before police came in and took Hagler to safety.
There was a big racism problem in the UK back in the '70s and '80s, at the height of the Neo-**** white-power skinhead movement (racist attacks against black & brown people was commonplace back then), before the movement eventually died out in the '90s. And the '90s was also when black & brown British boxing heroes like Frank Bruno, Chris Eubank and Prince Naseem rose to fame, redefining what it means to be a British sporting hero.
So yeah, the UK does have an ugly history, one that is all too often brushed under the rug by Brits today (for example, Brits are generally ignorant about the atrocities of the British Empire). But the UK's ugly history doesn't represent what the UK is today. In this day and age, the UK is more tolerant and less racist than the US... But then again, the UK has almost always been better than the US in that regard (except for the '70s and '80s, when the UK briefly overtook the US in the racism department).Last edited by aAgger; 10-24-2018, 09:49 PM.Comment
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UK and Mexican fans are the best fans in the world. They support theirs regardless of color. It's not hype, it's called support.
US fans are the worst, they hate their own. For example, the way African American fighters get bashed by American fans. Foreign fighters white/non black fighters are more loved in the US than American fighters.Comment
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I think the US fans don't support their own enough. I don't know if that's a bad thing in an individual sport like boxing. I personally watch boxing for skills, styles, and special effects. If you are cool in what you do, I don't care where you are from.Comment
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This.
Except i lived it. Had Filipino coworkers so had to constantly hear about...
...pakeeeoooowww numbaaa wunnn all the damn time.Comment
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He was called Ricky fatton long before he got knocked out by Mayweather. He was still as popular it was only when the drug abuse came to light he lost popularity.After Hatton lost to Mayweather, his popularity did take a hit in the UK. He became the butt of jokes and got nicknamed Ricky Fatton by the UK press. Even before the Pac KO.
There's also Tyson Fury, who is quite unpopular in the UK. And then there's Amir Khan and Kell Brook, both of whom have their legions of haters in the UK.
While UK fans do tend to support their fighters more than most other countries, UK fans do bash their fighters as well.
Tyson fury is unpopular because he has made ****phobic, sexist comments. Let’s not skim over that.
Amir Khan brings all of the negativity on himself and brook is only disliked by people who hate Hearn or by those who don’t believe his version of events of why he got stabbedComment

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