Comments Thread For: Lomachenko: 135 Is Not My Ideal Weight Category Right Now

[BoxingIsGreat]

Amateur lightweight is 132 with same day weigh-ins. I think he or his father wanted to go fight at the higher weight as a challenge too since he’d won gold at feather already.

Good attempt at hating though.

Hating? You mean the guy I was responding to or me, or you weren't following the conversation? I thought I was defending?

[killakali]

Because Mikey Garcia is the bigger man, regardless of height.

Mikey Garcia and Vasyl Lomachenko are basically the same age; Mikey has fought and even held his power at 144, while Lomachenko is still finding his way at 135lbs.

Fight fit, ignoring the weight cut, Mikey Garcia is simply a bigger person than Lomachenko is, and this talk leaves even less doubt as to that.

whi did Mikey fight at 144? Enlighten me lmao. And he didn’t have his power even at 140. How many ones did Lipinents and Broner go down. How many KO’s at that weight?

[R-Hand Southpaw]

Lomachenko only weights 138lbs on fight night. That's his walking around weight. That's different than someone like linares who came in reportedly at 152lbs on fight night. If linares weights 150+ I'm sure Mikey does too.

Lomachenko is a small 135lber. Mikey is not. But Mikey Garcia doesnt have the footwork to keep up with someone like Lomachenko. Linares who was #1 or #2 at 135 literally said he trained for an entire year and took 2 southpaw fights before lomachenko so he would be ready.

I scored the fight 6-3 before the KO.

Yeah, loma didnt look as good as he could of, shoulder, but hes gotten a real bad habit lately of bring far too ****y. It got him in trouble.

[Hmabshir]

The hate and jealousy is real for another great white fighter. The smallest weakest people in the world can't enjoy a true great talent and fighter like Lomachenko because of the pro black consciousness propaganda movement.

Seems that the BBC is living rent free in your head 24/7.

[elfag]

Pac and Floyd turned pro as teenagers, and at artificially low weights. If Loma had done the equivalent of what they did, which is turn pro at say 18 years old at 105 pounds, then 135 would already be Loma's ninth weight class. If he could make 126 easily at age 27 when he turned pro, then at 18 he probably could have made 105 if he drained himself like many fighters do, and like Floyd and Manny probably did at that age.

But because Loma turned pro after he was already a fully developed adult, and because he turned pro close to his natural weight instead of the smallest possible weight he could make, he has only moved up 3 weight classes in the pros. But as I've been showing, that's very misleading. The same thing goes on with GGG. Bivol is another good example, he is the same size as Saunders but Saunders fights at 160 Bivol fights at 175. If Saunders eventually moves to his normal weight 175, people will say "Saunders moved up to his third division, Bivol only stayed at 175, so Saunders is better," when in reality Saunders would not have moved "up" any further than Bivol did, he just started further "down" from his real weight than Bivol did.

In other words, Bivol will have been facing the best guys his size or bigger the whole time, whereas these weight jumpers fight smaller guys most their careers, then only fight guys their size at the end once they move up, but somehow that deserves more credit than fighting the best your size the whole time? That makes no sense! But, you can see it's a great propaganda tool because many fans absolutely do fall for it. Very rare is the fighter who actually starts at his natural weight when he turns pro as an already developed adult, and then moves up 4 or 5 times to face guys 4 or 5 divisions bigger than him. In fact that never *****ing happens far as I can see.

And the way you can tell all this weight jumping is bull**** is ask yourself, Pacquiao has moved up 8 divisions, but when he fights at 147, are his opponents 8 divisions bigger than him? No. They're only 1 or 2 divisions bigger than him, naturally. So that tells you, the first 6 divisions Manny moved up, that was all either from weight draining himself initially, or because he grew with age. He has only truly moved up to face opponents one or two divisions bigger than him, maybe 2.5 in the most extreme cases like Margarito, which is the same as Loma right now at 135. The only difference is Loma turned pro at an older age, and did not start at an artificially low weight the way that so many today do (Mikey, Crawford, Spence, Canelo, Charlos, etc).

Floyd turned pro at like 19 and 8 months old. He fought at 130 and stayed there for the next 5 years. When he moved to 135, it wasnt because he couldnt make it anymore.

Your entire theory is BS.

[Tony Trick-Pony]

Loma should look a lot better this time out, considering the opponent and now that his shoulder is healed. He'll own lightweight with a few more fights, I think.

[Tony Trick-Pony]

wow so mikey is even older, turning 31 in less than 60 days so u think he isn’t growing into 140 or 147 then. Because if u did u would be a fool.

You killed that argument, Killa!

Nice job...

[Tony Trick-Pony]

Must be Canelo's cousin.

So true...

[Tony Trick-Pony]

I think you and I are the only people that believe Loma will school Garcia. It will be easier fight than Linares. Linares offensively was very good and has exceptionally fast hands and quick feet. Mikey in comparison is a tortoise. Mikey has exceptional timing I will give him that and solid fundamentals but he has operated at a luck lustre pace and because his opponents don’t have a brain cell between them they have never pushed the action knowing he has suspect Stamina.

Loma will hit Mikey for fun and get out of range with ease.

I think it will most likely go as you say, with Mikey having the x factor of timing a big punch at the right opportunity. Of course, even then, this doesn't spell victory or knockout by any means. Loma got dropped against Linares but he got up and won by KO. I mean, anybody with that many amateur fights, can't have a glass jaw. I can see it being a very tense fight for us Loma fans though. If he beats Mikey though, I don't see any other real tests.

[Tony Trick-Pony]

Yeah it’s just a mess for Mikey styles wise. He’s a lot slower and more predictable than Linares and styles make fights. There’s a reason Mikey ducked Linares twice. I genuinely think Mikey won’t be able to handle adversity hence his choice of opposition. Notice how as soon as Salido turned it up on him and he got a chance to get out he did right away?

Loma scared of Salido doe. He only went twelve with him. Mikey, uh, Mikey beat him doe. He stil got his 0 doe.