Comments Thread For: Hearn: How Can Mayweather Hold Back Davis From Making More Money?

[Jax teller]

Warren was asked for his expertise on what the UK rights were worth, so Finkel could make sure Sky didn't try to short change him. Wilder's side was totally fine with the fight being on Sky as long as Sky was offering market value. Why would they want to go with BT over Sky when Sky is the more popular and dominant service? But you can't give AJ his promised 50 million without trying to maximize revenue in the UK. If Sky automatically gets the rights no matter what, why incentive does Sky have to make a competitive offer?

Completely made that up.

[Bronx2245]

If the money was real he couldn't but sadly, the money was a simple unsubstantiated bluff. There is no $50 million, never was.


Moving on.

The money was real, and hearn admitted it! Moving on too!

[yammy25]

Been there done that against GGG. What about the extensive media push and post fight promotion he was talking about?

If he wins... He's on the platform that holds all champions Including the Biggest payday of them all in Canelo.

You think every single person in the world roots for Canelo if he fights Jacobs in may? Or you think a sizeable chunk of fans will root for Jacobs due to golovkin loss and the PED storm?

Jacobs' profile will be doing just fine by the end of the second quarter

[N/A]

Completely made that up.

I'm sorry that you're in denial, but that is how things went down. Instead of only listening to Hearn's spin in the aftermath, you should have paid attention to both sides while negotiations were actually taking place. If you have any understanding of how boxing operates, you know that UK rights for a big US fight usually just go to the highest bidder. It's rare to always give your rights to just one party every time, especially for the big big events. Obviously Joshua had a deal with Sky and that deal would have been respected as long as Sky didn't try to low ball Wilder's team for the UK rights.

Wilder's team has no leverage with Sky if they can't show what the market value for the fight is. Finkel stated repeatedly throughout negotiations that there was no problem having the fight on Sky, provided that Sky matched the best offer. There's no logical reason they wouldn't have wanted the fight on Sky if Sky was offering th best deal.

[Jax teller]

I'm sorry that you're in denial, but that is how things went down. Instead of only listening to Hearn's spin in the aftermath, you should have paid attention to both sides while negotiations were actually taking place. If you have any understanding of how boxing operates, you know that UK rights for a big US fight usually just go to the highest bidder. It's rare to always give your rights to just one party every time, especially for the big big events. Obviously Joshua had a deal with Sky and that deal would have been respected as long as Sky didn't try to low ball Wilder's team for the UK rights.

Wilder's team has no leverage with Sky if they can't show what the market value for the fight is. Finkel stated repeatedly throughout negotiations that there was no problem having the fight on Sky, provided that Sky matched the best offer. There's no logical reason they wouldn't have wanted the fight on Sky if Sky was offering th best deal.

Lol it's not denial you just made up the conversation between Warren and Finkel. Here's another scenario for you with just as much credability as yours.

Finkel "Franky boy, you couldn't lend us some money? I need to raise 50 mil"

Warren "Sure I'll get it from BT but they'll want to air the fight"

Finkel "Excellent" (Mr Burns style)

This is made up theory, but so is yours.

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This is made up theory, but so is yours.

It's not a theory. It's what Finkel and Warren both said. Why would they lie about that? Why would Finkel lie about being willing to have the fight on Sky if Sky was willing to pay the most? He knows AJ can only fight on Sky. He's taking the fight as a cash out fight so he needs to maximize revenue. Your position here makes no sense whatsoever. When Hearn admitted the 50 million was real and admitted he turned it down to keep AJ's home advantage, there was no mention whatsoever about broadcaster complications. If Hearn had a legitimate excuse for turning down the fight, he would have used the excuse instead of having to admit AJ only fights at home.

[Jax teller]

It's not a theory. It's what Finkel and Warren both said. Why would they lie about that? Why would Finkel lie about being willing to have the fight on Sky if Sky was willing to pay the most? He knows AJ can only fight on Sky. He's taking the fight as a cash out fight so he needs to maximize revenue. Your position here makes no sense whatsoever. When Hearn admitted the 50 million was real and admitted he turned it down to keep AJ's home advantage, there was no mention whatsoever about broadcaster complications. If Hearn had a legitimate excuse for turning down the fight, he would have used the excuse instead of having to admit AJ only fights at home.

It is a theory you don't know that the conversation between the to was for a standard pricing list for broadacasters. Broadcasting wasn't an issue because there was no mention of Frank Warren until after the fight had gone, again. Finkel should have just gone to the booked in meetings, AJ responded withing minutes with 'lets roll' anything more official surely is justified to take place in a meeting, unless Finkel had something to hide.

[N/A]

Broadcasting wasn't an issue because there was no mention of Frank Warren until after the fight had gone, again.

Wrong. Hearn knew Warren/BT were working on a bid and Sky would have to match to get the fight had AJ taken the 50 million.

Finkel should have just gone to the booked in meetings, AJ responded withing minutes with 'lets roll' anything more official surely is justified to take place in a meeting, unless Finkel had something to hide.

Thank you for your uneducated amateur opinion. You're obviously not aware that meetings are uncommon for fights where there isn't already a general understanding of the split. You don't meet to discuss the color of the ring posts when you haven't agreed on money yet.

[bigdunny1]

According to Fat Boy Dan Hearn offered 1 fight big money with no 3 fight contract and they still turned it down.

http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/i...nta-davis-bout

Hearn said he has made Mayweather Promotions an offer to co-promote Davis for three fights, which he claims would pay Davis by far his biggest purses. Hearn said that when Mayweather Promotions declined, he offered a one-fight deal for Davis for career-best money to fight on one of his DAZN-streamed cards against Farmer or any other opponent they could agree on. He was rebuffed.

"I went back [to Mayweather Promotions] and said, 'Look, if you don't want to do a three-fight deal with me, do a one-fight deal.' The money is three times more than he's making at the moment," said Hearn, the No. 1 promoter in the United Kingdom. "America is a strange market. If that happened in the U.K. and the kid turned around and went, 'I want to take it,' you have no choice. In the U.S., the promoters seem to have much more power to be able to say, 'No, I'm not letting you' or 'You're not allowed to.' That's crazy. It might not suit Mayweather Promotions to upset their [broadcast] partner that will affect their other business by taking this deal. But how is that acting in the best interest of the fighter?

"The fighter is on social media all day going, 'I can't get a date, I'm so unhappy. I boxed once this year.' He's probably the best young talent in the sport. He's boxed once this year. He's f---ing brilliant. They came straight back and said we're not interested."

Mayweather Promotions CEO Leonard Ellerbe could not be reached for comment.

[Jax teller]

Wrong. Hearn knew Warren/BT were working on a bid and Sky would have to match to get the fight had AJ taken the 50 million.




Thank you for your uneducated amateur opinion. You're obviously not aware that meetings are uncommon for fights where there isn't already a general understanding of the split. You don't meet to discuss the color of the ring posts when you haven't agreed on money yet.

Lie Hearn didn't know Finkel and Warren was working together.

The garanteed amount and split was pre-determined so yes it was just the other details that would need going over. Don't bother responding if you are not going to use your brain or lie.