Murata is a big pay day for Golovkin??

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  • Eff Pandas
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    #41
    Originally posted by genrick
    All I'm saying is why are you guys justifying this Murata fight for GGG?
    Sh^t bro I could sit here & dog 98% of fights...and sh^t sometimes I do cuz one of my basic stances is boxing matchmaking is about building names vs putting competitive fights up & down on a boxing card...but the reality is boxing is a business that involves a sport more than its a sport that involves business these days. And I try to operate under that reality more often these days then I used to.

    Are you fans of the sport or his accountants?
    I'm a fan of the sport much more than a bean counter, but I love the sport & understand its big business & there is strategy with moves as well & to the fighters its less about legacy & more about making money doing something they've put so much of their life into.

    Would I love if boxing operated like virtually every other sport & there was elite pool of fighters in each division that had all the best guys fight each other til they lost fights & got kicked outta that pool of elite fighters, as I talk about at least once a week I think lol? Sure...f#ck yea.

    Boxing would be a better sport for fans & the legacy of boxing would be more intact with discovering who the best fighters were in any era & even who was the best guy was like used to be a thing you could figure out as a boxing fan without any thought.

    But good luck waiting for that being the reality despite it being beyond obvious boxing needs the ability to command some quality control at the top of the sport like the NFL, NBA, MLB & NHL along with many other sports do. And good luck "protesting" or b^tching & complaining all the time & that making it a reality. The reality is you need some mfers with skin in the game & a big bank account to make that a thing & I thought Haymon coulda been the guy to make that happen, for a second I thought that AIBA guy, who's recently gone mad or w/e, coulda been a guy to make that happen & now I think this DAZN thing could be the best bet to make that happen, but some other mfers need to make that happen is the point I'm trying to make. I don't got a billion dollars to help that happen.

    Don't you prefer Golovkin vs Jermall Charlo next year?
    Are you ******ed or just being difficult or acting confused about how boxing works for no good reason? I can think of better fights to make in every division from 105 up than the fights we are seeing. We all can.

    The problem is the current structure of boxing isn't even conducive to that being a regular thing one can do. There are too many cooks in the kitchen with making fights. You need the network(s) on board, you need ABC groups on board, you need managers on board, you need promoters on board, you might even need a trainer on board, you definitely need the fighter on board & then you need to make sure the money makes sense, then you gotta make sure the OST agreement or if they'll be one at all makes sense, then you gotta agree on a OST agency, then you need to make sure any options make sense for all parties, then you gotta make sure a specific venue makes sense & then you gotta make sure a specific date makes sense.

    There is a TON of hoops to jump through to make a fight. I can't imagine how time consuming & headache inducing at times making a fight would be with the bs involved with making a fight in this era.

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    • Dontbeahater
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      #42
      And yet ggg still going to fight Murata and in 2019. Ggg wants it both ways. Everyone ducked ggg since he wouldn't get paid but ggg ducks everybody unless he gets paid? It's good business for sure but it shows how little he actually cared about legacy.

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      • _Rexy_
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        #43
        Originally posted by Dontbeahater
        And yet ggg still going to fight Murata and in 2019. Ggg wants it both ways. Everyone ducked ggg since he wouldn't get paid but ggg ducks everybody unless he gets paid? It's good business for sure but it shows how little he actually cared about legacy.
        meh, not really. Murata holds the WBA regular which would put him on the fast track to a Canelo rematch while picking up a bigger purse than fighting Charlo.

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        • Chrismart
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          #44
          He does good viewing figures back home apparently.
          If it works out that that translates into a good pay day for anyone fighting over there, then I wouldn't blame any MW for taking a close look at the fight.

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          • TheCell8
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            #45
            A Murata fight is potentially an easier fight, and Golovkin can potentially make more money in that fight.

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            • j0zef
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              #46
              Originally posted by genrick
              All I'm saying is why are you guys justifying this Murata fight for GGG?
              Are you fans of the sport or his accountants?
              Don't you prefer Golovkin vs Jermall Charlo next year?
              There's nothing to justify. Murata is exactly on the same level as charlo. Depending on how you rank them, you have Canelo Golovkin charlo bjs Murata Jacobs and derevyanchenko.

              Jermall did not express any interest in fighting Golovkin after mandatory announcement, and I can't blame him - he's already the mandatory to canelo, why should he risk it against a very dangerous fighter for a quarter of the payday and no belts.
              Same goes for Golovkin. He's 36 and finally getting big fights. Why should he fight a very dangerous opponent for much lower payday than fighting similar quality opponent for much higher purse?

              Without belts at stake, they're not natural opponents for each other.

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              • killakali
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                #47
                Originally posted by genrick
                Again, if that is the case, don't you think it's idiotic for anyone of his opponent to fight him anywhere, but Japan?
                If you're Brant's manager, don't you want your fighter to make more money in Japan?
                keep reading the posts. The MGM paid big money to bring him to their Park Theatre and brought lots of Japanese high rollers plus the fight will still be broadcast at a good time in Japan. Same reason Ricky Hatton fought here at times

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                • rickJen
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                  #48
                  I think the Brant management team were influenced by this thread that I made.
                  After winning the title, they were talking about their willingness to fight in Japan for big money.
                  They want to fight in Australia too for Jeff Horn.

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