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  • kidbazooka
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    #11
    Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh

    The gbp haters just don’t know what to do right now.

    Hate is just bad for your health people.

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    • R_Walken
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      #12
      Originally posted by boxingnumber247
      The rest of GB stable let see
      angel acosta ,jaime munguia,rey vargas,alberto machado,jesus rojas , romero duno,ryan garcia,vergil ortiz jr,alexis rocha ,rashidi ellis,jason quigley, lamont roach jr,diego de la hoya ,yamaguchi falcao,joet gonzalez,david lemieux,sadam ali,joseph diaz jr,travell mazion,jorge linares,franciscco vargas,

      now you name 20 fighter eddie hearn matchroom usa has
      Hearns stable sh.its on GBs obviously
      You have to include his UK stable ,

      Muingia is legit but GB only has his US rights

      Ortiz seems like the real deal

      Linares is on his last legs and coming off a beat down from Loma

      Lemiuex , ALi , O’sullivan Arenfringe contenders at best and have no fans

      Vargas / Machado are in some of the weakest divisions and both have no fans and no one gives a sh.it about them

      JoJo Diaz is legit but a tier below the top dogs at 126

      De La Hoya & Garcia are hype jobs and will be exposed soon enough

      Is Fransisco Vargas still around , he’s been in so many wars probably doesn’t have much left , Wasnt his last fight Salka ( but he deserves props for laying the beat down on Salka for wearing those Wall Trunks )

      GB is Canelo and to some degree Muingia and maybe Ortiz and a bunch of whatever’s. It’s a better stable then say Main Events /K2 But their still essentially just a 1 star Promotional Company

      they aren’t up there with the Matchrooms , PBC , Top Ranks who have multiple notable fighters , once Canelo leaves the sport Golden Boy is most likely f.ucked

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      • boxingnumber247
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        #13
        [QUOTE=R_Walken;19203811]Hearns stable sh.its on GBs obviously
        You have to include his UK stable ,

        Muingia is legit but GB only has his US rights

        Ortiz seems like the real deal

        Linares is on his last legs and coming off a beat down from Loma

        Lemiuex , ALi , O’sullivan Arenfringe contenders at best and have no fans

        Vargas / Machado are in some of the weakest divisions and both have no fans and no one gives a sh.it about them

        JoJo Diaz is legit but a tier below the top dogs at 126

        De La Hoya & Garcia are hype jobs and will be exposed soon enough

        Is Fransisco Vargas still around , he’s been in so many wars probably doesn’t have much left , Wasnt his last fight Salka ( but he deserves props for laying the beat down on Salka for wearing those Wall Trunks )

        GB is Canelo and to some degree Muingia and maybe Ortiz and a bunch of whatever’s. It’s a better stable then say Main Events /K2 But their still essentially just a 1 star Promotional Company

        they aren’t up there with the Matchrooms , PBC , Top Ranks who have multiple notable fighters , once Canelo leaves the sport Golden Boy is most likely f.ucked[/QUOTE

        Hearns stable NAME THE FIGHTER Matchrooms USA HAS ????

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        • Madison Boxing
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          #14
          Hed be crazy to change promoter under a different banner u can make a good case for him having at least 3 more losses on his record maybe 4

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          • R_Walken
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            #15
            [QUOTE=boxingnumber247;19203833][QUOTE=R_Walken

            Hearns stable NAME THE FIGHTER Matchrooms USA HAS ????[/QUOTE]

            You have to include both Hearns US and UK stable to be fair

            And for the record outside of Canelo and maybe Muingia , Jessie Vargas has accomplished more , been in bigger fights and is more popular more then anyone left at GB

            Let that sink in on how thin GB stable is without Canelo


            Originally posted by DramaShow
            Hed be crazy to change promoter under a different banner u can make a good case for him having at least 3 more losses on his record maybe 4
            I don’t even think what promoters Canelo with matters , he’s the Mexican heir to the throne and the powers that be will give him all the breaks needed. I think it goes beyond Oscars influence IMO

            I think that the Mexican and Mexican-American heir will get all the breaks because they have the ability to generate so much revenue from the most loyal fanbase in North America so you get decisions like Chavez / Whittiker / Meldrick , Oscar / Sturm and ancouple other’s , Canelo / Lara or GGg

            But yeah if Canelo wasn’t the Mexican $ man he’d have at least 4 Ls all to the top dogs at 147,154 ,160 at the time he fought them and his standing in the sport would be looked at completely different

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            • bigdunny1
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              #16
              Originally posted by R_Walken
              Such a cheerleader , waiving your Pom poms like you’re included on the deal

              The reason Canelo is where is today is because Sheaffer was with GB when Canelo was starting out. Has Canelo ever topped his PPV with Mayweather ?


              I think Sheafer doing alright , He’s promotes most of the big PBC cards in LA ( Garcia / Easter , Mares /Cruz ) and it looks like his strategy is to build fighters from the ground up like Yoka and Balaros bros( you know real blue chip prospects ) , so it might be a little too early to tell

              The fact is the man you worship ( Oscar ) is only staying afloat in the business because of Canelo who was built by Sheaffer while Oscar was going on binges dressing like a women. But he’s done a great job leveraging Canelo into still being relevant, but once Canelos gone probably so is GB

              The rest of GB stable is basically sh.it and their next prized possession Ryan Garcia is a fraud and will be exposed soon enough
              That's a lie Schaefer is NOT promoting the biggest fight in LA from PBC Wilder and Fury and has promoted EXACTLY 3 events for the entire 2018 and has NOTHING currently scheduled for the remaining of 2018

              http://boxrec.com/ru/promoter/777380

              So PBC barely ever uses him. And look where Balaros careers are at? They signed at the same time as the other Olympians and Ryan Garcia/Devin Haney (too young for Olympics). Yet under schaefer nobody is talking about them and they aren't active. Balderas has already complained publicly about not fighting often enough and has fought only 6 times since signing in Nov 2016. Ryan Garcia has already fought 10 times. Teofimo Lopez has already fought 10 times. Devin Haney has fought 10 times. Shakur Stevenson has already fought 9 times. All 4 US based studs same age range blue chip prospects everyone wanted to sign them in 2016. Balderas is every bit as good if not better then those guys but he signed to Schaefer who has been terrible at promoting and keeping him active. If Balderas signed with Golden Boy or Top Rank he would be at where Ryan Garcia and Teofimo are at.

              Nothing but facts look where Golden Boy is at and where Schaefer is at. None of the former Golden Boy fighters trusted him and wanted to sign with him. No established fighters have signed with him. PBC obviously don't trust him which is why he has almost nothing to do with their events. And the one decent prospect he signed he totally ruined no buzz and can't even keep him active in small 4 round fights. He knocks a guy out in seconds into 1 round suffers no injuries and goes 6 months without fighting again at a time when prospects like him are fighting damn near every month unless there is a injury/cut. LMAO
              Last edited by bigdunny1; 10-18-2018, 01:05 PM.

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              • R_Walken
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                #17
                Originally posted by bigdunny1
                That's a lie Schaefer is NOT promoting the biggest fight in LA from PBC Wilder and Fury and has promoted EXACTLY 3 events for the entire 2018 and has NOTHING currently scheduled for the remaining of 2018

                http://boxrec.com/ru/promoter/777380

                So PBC barely ever uses him. And look where Balaros careers are at? They signed at the same time as the other Olympians and Ryan Garcia/Devin Haney (too young for Olympics). Yet under schaefer nobody is talking about them and they aren't active. Balderas has already complained publicly about not fighting often enough and has fought only 6 times since signing in Nov 2016. Ryan Garcia has already fought 10 times. Teofimo Lopez has already fought 10 times. Devin Haney has fought 10 times. Shakur Stevenson has already fought 9 times. All 4 US based studs same age range blue chip prospects everyone wanted to sign them in 2016. Balderas is every bit as good if not better then those guys but he signed to Schaefer who has been terrible at promoting and keeping him active. If Balderas signed with Golden Boy or Top Rank he would be at where Ryan Garcia and Teofimo are at.

                Nothing but facts look where Golden Boy is at and where Schaefer is at. None of the former Golden Boy fighters trusted him and wanted to sign with him. No established fighters have signed with him. PBC obviously don't trust him which is why he has almost nothing to do with their events. And the one decent prospect he signed he totally ruined no buzz and can't even keep him active in small 4 round fights. He knocks a guy out in seconds into 1 round suffers no injuries and goes 6 months without fighting again at a time when prospects like him are fighting damn near every month unless there is a injury/cut. LMAO
                Dunny I like how you accept the fact of me calling you a cheerleader

                and then go through my entire post just to disect 2 lines

                First you say look where GB is at compared to Sheaffer , well GB has the biggest Cash Cow in North America has been established for years was once the biggest promotional company and Sheaffer was banished from the sport for years and just starting out again , not exactly a fair comparison, but hey you do you

                Yeah Sheaffer isn’t promoting the Fury /Wilder fight but it still doesn’t change besides that he’s been promoting the biggest fights in LA this year bigger , better and more financially successful fights then GB has put on in LA

                Now what you’re saying about the Baldaros bros. Might be right , I haven’t heard them complain though but that doesn’t mean it didn’t happen , But haven’t they been featured on a couple cards on Fox ?

                And you’re right they are behind the curve as far as the profile as the other young guns like Garcia , Stevenson, Teofima

                But it’s still too early To tell , Development of fighters is a inexact science so the jury’s still out , it’s not where you start but where you finish

                But Sheaffer chose to sign fighters and start from the grass roots with Yoka / Baldaros and I believe also aligned with David Haye for his UK stable so it may be awhile before we know if he’s successful or not . But if Yoka proves to be the next Great HW , Sheaffers laughing , not saying it’ll happen but he’s has the pedigree so you never know

                Now f.uck off and go back to writing your constant quasi h.omosexual posts about anything related to Canelo , Garcia or Oscar or your hate filled posts about anyone you perceive as their threats PBC / Golovkin

                I’m sure one day Oscar will notice all the hard work you’ve done through the years defending him and his companies honour and hand you his favourite kitchen utensil for you to do whatever you wish on him

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                • bigdunny1
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by R_Walken
                  Dunny I like how you accept the fact of me calling you a cheerleader

                  and then go through my entire post just to disect 2 lines

                  First you say look where GB is at compared to Sheaffer , well GB has the biggest Cash Cow in North America has been established for years was once the biggest promotional company and Sheaffer was banished from the sport for years and just starting out again , not exactly a fair comparison, but hey you do you

                  Yeah Sheaffer isn’t promoting the Fury /Wilder fight but it still doesn’t change besides that he’s been promoting the biggest fights in LA this year bigger , better and more financially successful fights then GB has put on in LA

                  Now what you’re saying about the Baldaros bros. Might be right , I haven’t heard them complain though but that doesn’t mean it didn’t happen , But haven’t they been featured on a couple cards on Fox ?

                  And you’re right they are behind the curve as far as the profile as the other young guns like Garcia , Stevenson, Teofima

                  But it’s still too early To tell , Development of fighters is a inexact science so the jury’s still out , it’s not where you start but where you finish

                  But Sheaffer chose to sign fighters and start from the grass roots with Yoka / Baldaros and I believe also aligned with David Haye for his UK stable so it may be awhile before we know if he’s successful or not . But if Yoka proves to be the next Great HW , Sheaffers laughing , not saying it’ll happen but he’s has the pedigree so you never know

                  Now f.uck off and go back to writing your constant quasi h.omosexual posts about anything related to Canelo , Garcia or Oscar or your hate filled posts about anyone you perceive as their threats PBC / Golovkin

                  I’m sure one day Oscar will notice all the hard work you’ve done through the years defending him and his companies honour and hand you his favourite kitchen utensil for you to do whatever you wish on him
                  I could spend all day slapping you around the parking lot for the ****** shyt you said but you got caught flat out lying Schaefer is NOT the west coast promoter for PBC he has only promoted exact 3 cards for the entire 2018 and has nothing scheduled the remaining of the year that's a fact. PBC has put more then 3 west coast shows in 2018 and wilder/ fury their biggest card is out west and has nothing to do with Schaefer. So stop lying bytch. Since getting kicked out of Golden boy back in 2014 Schaefer has become irrelevant. Idiots like you said that he is the reason for Golden boy success and that without him Golden boy would fold. Well we are going on half a decade later so let's take stock shall we. Golden Boy is still one of the premier promoters in the game won promoter of the year twice AFTER Schaefer left Golden Boy, signed numerous tv deals AFTER Schaefer left, Canelo paydays and star power has increased every year and is light years where it was when Schaefer was there. Now let's look at Schaefer folks predicted haymon to hire him in his company and make him the face of PBC? Nope that didn't happen. Then Folk's predicted him to sign all those old Golden boy fighters under his new promotions? Nope that didn't happen. Folks predicted star fighters and free agents would sign with him? Nope that didn't happen. Folks predicted PBC would make him their sole promoter like haymon did for his fighters years ago with Golden boy? Nope that didn't happen he barely gets any shows sent his way from Haymon. Like I said he's irrelevant. Haymon don't trust to promote his shows so barely gives sends any to him, none of the old Golden boy fighters trust him that's why they didn't sign. No top free agent trust him that's why they didn't sign.

                  And the things he did touch he ruined remember his relationship with WBSS? They hired him for 1 job only to get the tournament US TV rights and promote the tournament in the United States he was a total failure and the first tournament ended with no tv deal and no buzzz in the US with them furious with Schaefer. They went an got a US tv deal with DAZN for second tournament that has nothing to do with Schaefer because he's not involved anymore aka basically got fired. And the only decent prospect he tricked to sign with him he already phuked up his career and can't get him fights. All the top prospects signed late 2016 and he is behind everyone one of them and publically complaining that he is not active enough you don't think he's jealous seeing what Golden boy is doing with Ryan Garcia and Top Rank is doing with Shakur Stevenson. Good luck convincing anyone else to sign with Schaefer when without Golden boy he is either irrelevant or has a terrible track record.

                  We know you hate Oscar but there is no way to spin the scoreboard.
                  Last edited by bigdunny1; 10-20-2018, 08:20 AM.

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                  • IMDAZED
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                    #19
                    Golden Boy has been impressive. Props to Eric Gomez and his team. Not just from a business standpoint (finding a home for their stable was huge), but also in terms of finding prospects to keep the wheel churning. I think folks are sleeping a bit.

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