Arum: Showtime will leave boxing within the next year

[Motorcity Cobra]

I think this three year deal SHO has with PBC will decide its boxing fate. It's hard to believe CBS is gonna continue pouring money into boxing if they're only averaging 600K viewers a fight featuring America's best fighters. There's only so many Floyd Mayweather PPVs out there that can disguise how poorly the rest of boxing draws for SHO.

Hopefully Wilder-Fury surprises and nets them a good amount of PPV buys.

They aren't selling ads they're a subscription based service. The ratings aren't as important as the subs. Half of Showtime subs say boxing is important ti them according to a survey Espinoza cites

[The Big Dunn]

Not been in the States for awhile mate so I've no recent experience to draw on.

I thought from what you'd said that there was some kind of licensing restriction stopping a barowner from sticking DAZN on his tv. In the UK for instance bars have to pay a premium to show Sky Sports.

Although a lot of bars only put the very big fights on so given DAZN aren't the likely venue for those PPV nights maybe that's a reason?

Probably the same thing here. I was at a Hooters and they didn't have it and I was shocked. They all have the PPV's but that is different.

IMO this sucks because sometimes I like to leave the house and go to a bar and watch the fights. WIth so many fights on the apps that isn't possible.

I will try to get an answer.

[MasterPlan]

SHO is pretty invested in boxing. They've increased their budget and if they add Canelo and/GGG then they'll be fine (they already have May and Pac now.)

[Madison Boxing]

Unfortunately the product showtime is offering simply isnt good enough. Haymon hasnt been able to build one single star since he started pbc.

[KTFOKING]

Unfortunately the product showtime is offering simply isnt good enough. Haymon hasnt been able to build one single star since he started pbc.

Product of SHO has been just fine. The best and most consistent product the last two years. They invested in boxing more than anyone from that stretch and completely overlapped HBO.

SHO just signed a three year deal with the PBC. And if they are serious about going after Canelo, which they are, do they look like they are exiting boxing within the year?

[Motorcity Cobra]

Unfortunately the product showtime is offering simply isnt good enough. Haymon hasnt been able to build one single star since he started pbc.

Name all the stars in boxing

[IMDAZED]

Product of SHO has been just fine. The best and most consistent product the last two years. They invested in boxing more than anyone from that stretch and completely overlapped HBO.

SHO just signed a three year deal with the PBC. And if they are serious about going after Canelo, which they are, do they look like they are exiting boxing within the year?

Nah, he’s right. They aren’t producing fighters or generating income. They’ll be gone soon. Just like PBC is gone 😏

[Mike D]

I could be wrong but it appears to me that Showtime is fully committed to the sport -- for several years now they've actively tried to build something special at the network when it comes to the sport of boxing, whereas HBO was content to let their power in the sport dwindle and dwindle until they eventually had to pull the plug.

And Showtime also played a monumental role in basically killing off their top competitor -- and now they're going to quit too? I don't see it

[KTFOKING]

I could be wrong but it appears to me that Showtime is fully committed to the sport -- for several years now they've actively tried to build something special at the network when it comes to the sport of boxing, whereas HBO was content to let their power in the sport dwindle and dwindle until they eventually had to pull the plug.

And Showtime also played a monumental role in basically killing off their top competitor -- and now they're going to quit too? I don't see it

Exactly. They will be in the game for at least three or so more years and then go from there. Why would they need to get out of boxing when they have the deepest stable fighting under them? The HBO product had severely declined and they lost out most of the top fighters. If HBO still had TR and say Haymon, do you think they exit boxing? Highly unlikely that happens.

[Eff Pandas]

The writing was on the wall for HBO for years. I'm not sure what wall Bob is looking at to make this prediction. I'm definitely not seeing anything with Showtime that has me believing they are 12 months or less for boxing.

This seems like some wishful thinking more than sh^t talking on Bob's part. It'd make his life just a lil easier if Showtime was gone.