Comments Thread For: Hall of Fame: Rafael Marquez, Yes; Ricky Hatton, No

[187 Proof]

Ok, you asked. And you seemed confident.

Here’s The Ring Cruiserweight current P4P rankings. The US has one fighter, at no.8 in the list. What a display of American dominance....


C. ALEKSANDR USYK
RING, IBF, WBA, WBC, WBO
COUNTRY: UKRAINE
15-0-0 (11 KOS)
WEEKS ON LIST: 159

1.Mairis Briedis
COUNTRY: LATVIA
24-1-0 (18 KOS)
WEEKS ON LIST: 138

2.Murat Gassiev
COUNTRY: RUSSIA
26-1-0 (19 KOS)
WEEKS ON LIST: 101

3.Denis Lebedev
COUNTRY: RUSSIA
31-2-0 (23 KOS)
WEEKS ON LIST: 455

4.Yunier Dorticos
COUNTRY: CUBA
22-1-0 (21 KOS)
WEEKS ON LIST: 57

5.Krzysztof Glowacki
COUNTRY: POLAND
30-1-0 (19 KOS)
WEEKS ON LIST: 166

6.Maksim Vlasov
COUNTRY: RUSSIA
42-2-0 (25 KOS)
WEEKS ON LIST: 54

7.Kevin Lerena
COUNTRY: SOUTH AFRICA
21-1-0 (9 KOS)
WEEKS ON LIST: 51

8. Andrew Tabiti
COUNTRY: U.S.
16-0-0 (13 KOS)
WEEKS ON LIST: 55

9.Ilunga Makabu
COUNTRY: CONGO
22-2-0 (21 KOS)
WEEKS ON LIST: 275

10. Constantin Bejenaru
COUNTRY: MOLDOVA
13-0-0 (3 KOS)
WEEKS ON LIST: 11

They said Top 50 P4P, dumbass. No idea why you think the Top 10 at Cruiserweight is relevant.

[-DSG-]

Rafael Marquez is not a hall of famer.

[187 Proof]

I'd go with Moorer, Hernandez and Marquez.

[boliodogs]

Ok, you asked. And you seemed confident.

Here’s The Ring Cruiserweight current P4P rankings. The US has one fighter, at no.8 in the list. What a display of American dominance....


C. ALEKSANDR USYK
RING, IBF, WBA, WBC, WBO
COUNTRY: UKRAINE
15-0-0 (11 KOS)
WEEKS ON LIST: 159

1.Mairis Briedis
COUNTRY: LATVIA
24-1-0 (18 KOS)
WEEKS ON LIST: 138

2.Murat Gassiev
COUNTRY: RUSSIA
26-1-0 (19 KOS)
WEEKS ON LIST: 101

3.Denis Lebedev
COUNTRY: RUSSIA
31-2-0 (23 KOS)
WEEKS ON LIST: 455

4.Yunier Dorticos
COUNTRY: CUBA
22-1-0 (21 KOS)
WEEKS ON LIST: 57

5.Krzysztof Glowacki
COUNTRY: POLAND
30-1-0 (19 KOS)
WEEKS ON LIST: 166

6.Maksim Vlasov
COUNTRY: RUSSIA
42-2-0 (25 KOS)
WEEKS ON LIST: 54

7.Kevin Lerena
COUNTRY: SOUTH AFRICA
21-1-0 (9 KOS)
WEEKS ON LIST: 51

8. Andrew Tabiti
COUNTRY: U.S.
16-0-0 (13 KOS)
WEEKS ON LIST: 55

9.Ilunga Makabu
COUNTRY: CONGO
22-2-0 (21 KOS)
WEEKS ON LIST: 275

10. Constantin Bejenaru
COUNTRY: MOLDOVA
13-0-0 (3 KOS)
WEEKS ON LIST: 11

That is a list of the top contenders for a title shot and not a pound for pound best list. They are two entirely different things. The top 50 pfp list would include all top boxers from all weight classes and not just one weight class. Ring is rating those cruiserweights by who they have actually defeated to earn a title shot. PFP isn't resume it's potential and how good you THINK a boxer is for his weight.

[menan]

vazquez

Wilfredo Vazquez,Sr should be there

[Bundana]

lmao, US owns boxing. Go look at any top 50 p4p list. Majority is US boxers. Its a fact.

Are there any Top-50 p4p lists of current fighters out there - where the majority is US boxers?

[Rigpig]

You are suggesting that an all time great fighter famous for his punching power may have used illegal wraps with no proof what so ever. The rules of pro boxing are a boxer must wrap his hands in front of a member of the boxing commission and a member of his opponent's team. Then the gloves are marked and sealed. This makes it nearly impossible to cheat if these rules are followed. A heavy handed boxer like Chavez or Margarito who lands a large number of head punches can do tremendous damage without help from illegal wraps. Margarito was caught by these rules before the Mosley fight. There is no proof Margarito used illegal wraps before the Mosley fight. Only assumptions.

http://www.espn.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=3897765


He was caught before the Mosley fight. His wraps had to be redone and they found plaster in them. He then got his ass thoroughly beat and never had another decent win that I’m aware of. And he rematched Cotto and didn’t inflict even half the damage as the first fight.

[Mexican_Puppet]

Rafa Márquez was top-5 P4P in his prime.

Don Nacho said that Rafa was the hardest hitter he trained.

[Mexican_Puppet]

I think a stoppage win over Kostya Tszyu is a better win than anything Rafael Marquez has achieved so I'm not sure what the criteria of HOF is

That was a 36 years old Tzyu.

No way in hell Hatton was better than Rafael Márquez.

[Boksfan]

Oh, geez, racist?

Yeah true story.