Comments Thread For: Hall of Fame: Rafael Marquez, Yes; Ricky Hatton, No

[187 Proof]

Just checked out the whole list. If I could pick 5 to get in they'd be Ivan Calderon, Rafael Marquez, Michael Moorer, Genaro Hernandez, and Wilfredo Vasquez.

Next in line would be Gilberto Roman.

[Butch.McRae]

Hatton is a HOFer, no doubt.

Julian Jackson beat Norris and won 3 belts over two classes in a crazy deep era. That gets him in imo.

I'd put Hernandez on too.

Side note: Gatti got in so in reality all of these guys listed should get in too because he wasn't even remotely close to being on any of their levels.

He got in because of white guy/east coast bias. He was barely above a club level guy but had a big east coast reputation. He was never a household name nationally. Just to white guys on the east coast.

[cameltoe]

That is a list of the top contenders for a title shot and not a pound for pound best list. They are two entirely different things. The top 50 pfp list would include all top boxers from all weight classes and not just one weight class. Ring is rating those cruiserweights by who they have actually defeated to earn a title shot. PFP isn't resume it's potential and how good you THINK a boxer is for his weight.

Ok so America dominates, as long as you only look at P4P lists within certain parameters.

Got it! 👍

[cameltoe]

They said Top 50 P4P, dumbass. No idea why you think the Top 10 at Cruiserweight is relevant.

Why not? America dominates apparently.

Yet y’all have to have the top *50* fighters in a P4P list to make your point. LMAO.

[elfag]

Ok, you asked. And you seemed confident.

Here’s The Ring Cruiserweight current P4P rankings. The US has one fighter, at no.8 in the list. What a display of American dominance....


C. ALEKSANDR USYK
RING, IBF, WBA, WBC, WBO
COUNTRY: UKRAINE
15-0-0 (11 KOS)
WEEKS ON LIST: 159

1.Mairis Briedis
COUNTRY: LATVIA
24-1-0 (18 KOS)
WEEKS ON LIST: 138

2.Murat Gassiev
COUNTRY: RUSSIA
26-1-0 (19 KOS)
WEEKS ON LIST: 101

3.Denis Lebedev
COUNTRY: RUSSIA
31-2-0 (23 KOS)
WEEKS ON LIST: 455

4.Yunier Dorticos
COUNTRY: CUBA
22-1-0 (21 KOS)
WEEKS ON LIST: 57

5.Krzysztof Glowacki
COUNTRY: POLAND
30-1-0 (19 KOS)
WEEKS ON LIST: 166

6.Maksim Vlasov
COUNTRY: RUSSIA
42-2-0 (25 KOS)
WEEKS ON LIST: 54

7.Kevin Lerena
COUNTRY: SOUTH AFRICA
21-1-0 (9 KOS)
WEEKS ON LIST: 51

8. Andrew Tabiti
COUNTRY: U.S.
16-0-0 (13 KOS)
WEEKS ON LIST: 55

9.Ilunga Makabu
COUNTRY: CONGO
22-2-0 (21 KOS)
WEEKS ON LIST: 275

10. Constantin Bejenaru
COUNTRY: MOLDOVA
13-0-0 (3 KOS)
WEEKS ON LIST: 11

lmao, you hand picked cruiserweight. Its a poverty division. Thats why its all 3rd world **** holes.


Also Did I not say p4p rankings? You said "Cruiserweight p4p rankings" That doesnt even make any ***ing sense. Did you just start watching boxing yesterday?

You have to be the dumbest phaggot on here.

[Shadoww702]

Um, not sure if you were aware, but the U.S. is the home of boxing; always has been. If you're going to fight your entire career somewhere and be a credible star you fight in the U.S., not Germany. That's not being biased or ethnocentric in any way. It's just a fact.

Getting a win in Germany is almost IMPOSSIBLE

[wildman]

I think both Julian Jackson and Dariusz Michalczewski belong. Jackson lost to McCallum early in his career, but not again until the end of his career to McClellan. In between he was dominant against some pretty good competition. And his power was chilling. As for Michalczewski, he was very strong, durable and well conditioned. Roy Jones ducked him for a reason.

[just the facts]

So when cotto stepped up and got whooped by mayweathwr pacquiao canelo trout and margarito this site was making him out to be some sort of legend when he retired 'he only lost to the best' but when Hatton lost to pacquiao and mayweather 'no hall of famer, he lost when he stepped up' I'm sick of the racism towards European fighters on here who seem to have to do twice as much as everyone else. If u don't want Hatton in there fine, but don't put cotto in there

Posted by the most racist poster on NSB. Who was Hattons best win? A win over Kostya Tszu isn't enough to make a HOF career.

[just the facts]

Ottke is as good as Ward.

Thank you! I'm kinda having a bad day and needed a good laugh and you have provided it with your ignorant post.

[Mr. Philadel]

So when cotto stepped up and got whooped by mayweathwr pacquiao canelo trout and margarito this site was making him out to be some sort of legend when he retired 'he only lost to the best' but when Hatton lost to pacquiao and mayweather 'no hall of famer, he lost when he stepped up' I'm sick of the racism towards European fighters on here who seem to have to do twice as much as everyone else. If u don't want Hatton in there fine, but don't put cotto in there

Cotto won world titles from 140-160...He fought EVERYONE relevant in his era...He fought Margarito TWICE...even after getting beat with plaster he STILL fought him....he had every right to turn down the rematch but he still took it...Hatton NEVER fought Witter...why?...Hatton claims Witter bad mouthed him and was being verbally disrespectful lol...see the difference between Cotto and Hatton yet?!?...not to mention Cotto accomplished more and was a better fighter than Hatton