Does Robert Helenius Stand a chance of making it to HW Champ ?

[yammy25]

He could beat Kabayel and become European champ, but thats about it.

He's already a 3 X EBU champion.

[famicommander]

The WBA doesn't have a regular championship. There's no such thing. They have world titles, super titles, intercontinental titles, latino titles and all sorts of other titles, but no they don't have regular titles.

Enough when the semantics nonsense.

When the WBA recognizes a Super champion, their "world" title is referred to as a "regular" title and doesn't really count. Nobody on this planet considers Manual Charr a former heavyweight champion except you.

[N/A]

Enough when the semantics nonsense.

When the WBA recognizes a Super champion, their "world" title is referred to as a "regular" title and doesn't really count. Nobody on this planet considers Manual Charr a former heavyweight champion except you.

You're the one resorting to semantics. I'm saying the world champion is the world champion and the super champion is the super champion.

You're the one saying the world champion is sometimes the world champion, but sometimes the super champion is the world champion, and a world champion can be a world champion one day but the next day if there's a super champion, the world champion is no longer the world champion. Doesn't make any sense. Machado was the WBA world champion. He didn't stop being the WBA world champion when Mayweather convinced the WBA to bring back the super title for Tank.

[famicommander]

You're the one resorting to semantics. I'm saying the world champion is the world champion and the super champion is the super champion.

You're the one saying the world champion is sometimes the world champion, but sometimes the super champion is the world champion, and a world champion can be a world champion one day but the next day if there's a super champion, the world champion is no longer the world champion. Doesn't make any sense. Machado was the WBA world champion. He didn't stop being the WBA world champion when Mayweather convinced the WBA to bring back the super title for Tank.

If the commission in question ranks another fighter above you, you aren't its world champion. Period.

Not that hard to figure out.

[N/A]

If the commission in question ranks another fighter above you, you aren't its world champion. Period.

Not that hard to figure out.

if the wba says youre the wba world champion, then youre the wba world champion. not that hard to figure out.

[famicommander]

if the wba says youre the wba world champion, then youre the wba world champion. not that hard to figure out.

Why is Uysk considered undisputed then? Beibut Shumenov is the WBA Cruiserweight Champion, Usyk is the Super Champion.

Which one of the two is the WBA's higher ranked fighter?

Thought so.

[N/A]

Why is Uysk considered undisputed then? Beibut Shumenov is the WBA Cruiserweight Champion, Usyk is the Super Champion.

Because the requirement of being "undisputed champion" is holding the WBC world title, WBA super title, IBF world title and WBO world title. Uysk holds those four titles, therefore he's the undisputed champion.

Which one of the two is the WBA's higher ranked fighter?

The WBA recognizes being a super champion as a higher honor than being a world champion. Doesn't change who is world champion and who is super champion. You're the one pretending the world champion is the world champion sometimes while the super champion is the world champion other times.

[famicommander]

Because the requirement of being "undisputed champion" is holding the WBC world title, WBA super title, IBF world title and WBO world title. Uysk holds those four titles, therefore he's the undisputed champion.





The WBA recognizes being a super champion as a higher honor than being a world champion. Doesn't change who is world champion and who is super champion. You're the one pretending the world champion is the world champion sometimes while the super champion is the world champion other times.

You're literally the only one on this site full of halfwits that struggles with this concept.

If the WBA recognizes a Super Champion,their World ("Regular") title is a secondary title. By definition.