How do you rate Lomachenko’s defense?

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  • Real King Kong
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    #21
    Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
    Not even close. In 2012 Mayweather had a plus/minus of +30, Lomachenko is +17.3. Mayweather fought better comp too. Don't insult Mayweather. Compubox is bull**** though.
    agree with compubox being bs...loma probably has better stats.

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    • Real King Kong
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      #22
      Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
      Not even close. In 2012 Mayweather had a plus/minus of +30, Lomachenko is +17.3. Mayweather fought better comp too. Don't insult Mayweather. Compubox is bull**** though.
      post a link...he only had the cotto fight in 2012. are you saying all compubox tracked fights up until that point?

      according to this, loma actually has better defense. his stats are dragged down cuz he's busier and less selective.

      Vasyl Lomachenko has amassed a plus/minus rating of +20.7 in his last 8 fights. That's the highest rating since Floyd Mayweather's +24.5 after the Andre Berto fight. CompuBox compares the stats of Mayweather & Lomachenko in 10 categories to see how they match up. Tell us fight fans what Head to Head match up you'd like to see next.

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      • chrisJS
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        #23
        Originally posted by Real King Kong
        post a link...he only had the cotto fight in 2012. are you saying all compubox tracked fights up until that point?

        according to this, loma actually has better defense. his stats are dragged down cuz he's busier and less selective.

        https://www.boxingscene.com/mayweath...arison--115530
        If it's a stat that Robbie wants to be true than it's 100% accurate but if he doesn't want to believe it's 100% false and fabricated.

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        • Robbie Barrett
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          #24
          Originally posted by Real King Kong
          post a link...he only had the cotto fight in 2012. are you saying all compubox tracked fights up until that point?

          according to this, loma actually has better defense. his stats are dragged down cuz he's busier and less selective.

          https://www.boxingscene.com/mayweath...arison--115530
          http://www.espn.co.uk/boxing/story/_...-boxing-greats

          2012 - Mayweather had a connect percentage of 46% and opponent connect percentage of 16%. Has he slowed down his stats obviously got worse but still better than Loma's.

          Lomachenko's opponent connect is now 18.4%, Saunders actually has better at 18.2%.




          Has Loma steps up in comp his stats will get worse. I remember Golovkin used to be the leader. That changed quickly.

          Prime Mayweather was a class above Lomachenko.

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          • Flo_Raiden
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            #25
            I think his defensive skills that he showed in his fight against Rigo was superb. Barely got touched, especially with a sharp shooter like Rigo and just made him look like a complete novice. I think that was the fight that he got hit the least.

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            • Real King Kong
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              #26
              Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
              http://www.espn.co.uk/boxing/story/_...-boxing-greats

              2012 - Mayweather had a connect percentage of 46% and opponent connect percentage of 16%. Has he slowed down his stats obviously got worse but still better than Loma's.

              Lomachenko's opponent connect is now 18.4%, Saunders actually has better at 18.2%.




              Has Loma steps up in comp his stats will get worse. I remember Golovkin used to be the leader. That changed quickly.

              Prime Mayweather was a class above Lomachenko.
              yea, stats will diminish as competition level goes up. but just as important is style. loma is more aggressive and sits in the pocket more...when prime mayweather fought with a more aggressive style, he was lit up by B level demarcus Corley, who is nowhere near his best opposition.

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              • Robbie Barrett
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                #27
                Originally posted by Real King Kong
                yea, stats will diminish as competition level goes up. but just as important is style. loma is more aggressive and sits in the pocket more...when prime mayweather fought with a more aggressive style, he was lit up by B level demarcus Corley, who is nowhere near his best opposition.
                At least he hasn't got a loss to a cab driver. You trying to compare Loma to Mayweather is a battle you can't win. Mayweather is the greatest fighter of the last 25 years. Lomahenko simply isn't, give it up.

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                • TheCell8
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                  #28
                  It's a 7-8/10. Not bad, but not great.

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                  • lizard_man
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                    #29
                    D+ at best. He has no defense. His offense is his defense. I mean we saw what an old, slow, 14 loss fighter did to him. And linares almost knocked him cold the fck out with a fcking jab lmao.

                    Defense? Lmao EE fighters dont have defense. Look at triple Ls face after the canelo fight. He used his face to block power shot after power shot.

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                    • MONGOOSE66
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                      #30
                      His defense is his elite offense.

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