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  • #11
    Originally posted by youbeight View Post
    Nah I’m waiting this one out till mid December. Let them ppv numbers and gate numbers come in. Re-evaluate the market and negotiate in January for April get a signed agreement before February and you still got 12weeks potentially to press tour and train.
    It could possibly wait until Dec 31 to be finalized, but it will take a few weeks minimum to negotiate judging from past attempts. I think at least an initial response of interest to the contract offer needs to be sent before the Fury fight, even if it has to be done on the quiet by Finkel (with conditions that Hearn also keeps his mouth shut) so as not to distract Wilder. To get a decent press tour and an uninterrupted training camp in before 13th April, they've got to be ready to go public by 01st Jan in my opinion.

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    • #12
      The big change has been that Wilder has done a good job improving his profile and building the fight That's why he got the better offer.

      Hearn's points are fair. Don't forget AJ has a lot of mandatories to cover so he can't leave things to the last minute.

      The only way to interpret the W team not even meeting is that they believe that with the F fight in the bag W's profile is constantly building and hence their negotiation position. They are right about that but this isn't the smartest way to go about it.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Adamsc151 View Post
        It could possibly wait until Dec 31 to be finalized, but it will take a few weeks minimum to negotiate judging from past attempts. I think at least an initial response of interest to the contract offer needs to be sent before the Fury fight, even if it has to be done on the quiet by Finkel (with conditions that Hearn also keeps his mouth shut) so as not to distract Wilder. To get a decent press tour and an uninterrupted training camp in before 13th April, they've got to be ready to go public by 01st Jan in my opinion.
        I think thatlll be the route tbh. The pr game Hearn is trynna to win is mostly due to backlash but still think finkel will hit Hearn come fight week with what they want in a deal and what the fight projections looks like and Hearn will have a few days to send an offer. Sending something now is totally premature let alone saying it needed to be done before Dec 1st. If Joshua was in wilder spot right now Hearn wouldn’t be doing this type of deal till he’s got concrete proof that he can get more in time than shooting his load off now.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by petegrif View Post
          The big change has been that Wilder has done a good job improving his profile and building the fight That's why he got the better offer.

          Hearn's points are fair. Don't forget AJ has a lot of mandatories to cover so he can't leave things to the last minute.

          The only way to interpret the W team not even meeting is that they believe that with the F fight in the bag W's profile is constantly building and hence their negotiation position. They are right about that but this isn't the smartest way to go about it.
          Just ask for an extension. The WBA just had theirs filled
          WBC makes it up as they go
          IBF won’t call theirs and even then they give you 9months and an extension as long as you are willing to take on their mandatory after it
          WBO will just price their belt higher of a sanction fee to overlook a mandatory.

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          • #15
            This dude is a clown.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by youbeight View Post
              I think thatlll be the route tbh. The pr game Hearn is trynna to win is mostly due to backlash but still think finkel will hit Hearn come fight week with what they want in a deal and what the fight projections looks like and Hearn will have a few days to send an offer. Sending something now is totally premature let alone saying it needed to be done before Dec 1st. If Joshua was in wilder spot right now Hearn wouldn’t be doing this type of deal till he’s got concrete proof that he can get more in time than shooting his load off now.
              Agreed, all the promoters play the same game. "My lad's busy prepping for his next fight, I can't allow him to be distracted until afterwards". "We've now had our fight so need to negotiate ASAP regardless of your position as the governing bodies are breathing down our necks".
              Add in to the mix that promoters trust each other as much as they would trust an armed crack-head at their backs, and would each sell their grannies to the organ donor black-market as long as they got a decent price.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by NahMean View Post
                He deffo did change his stance.. But now there should be no excuse to try and make the fight. I thought we want the fight? Why are people happy Shelly won’t meet to make this fight?? Do you really want to see it then.
                No you are absolutely right, we want the fight.

                BUT when you have a promoter playing games and flip flopping the way Hearn has, he is the REAL reason we aren't getting it if it doesn't happen.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by youbeight View Post
                  You lost me with this bruh....idk what or who you’re picking for and against here.
                  hoping for a double knockout.. pretty much

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP View Post
                    One of the most anticipated match-ups in all of boxing would be the heavyweight unification bout between Anthony Joshua (who has possession of the WBA, IBF, IBO and WBO belts) and Deontay Wilder (who has ownership of the WBC title) but it doesn't look like they're any closer to actually meeting in the ring in the upcoming year.
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                    This guy Hearn is a freakin first-rate tool.

                    How do you try to negotiate with Wilder, while he's promoting and preparing for a fight with Fury.

                    And then follow-up that ******, idiotic move with another one, by making media statements that Wilder's Team won't talk to him, while they're promoting an upcoming fight with Fury.

                    I'm guessing that for the mentally challenged, this counts as Wilder's fault, for not breaking away from the matter at hand, to cater to Hearn's horrible timing and insincere gestures.

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                    • #20
                      The authentic boxing fans are tired of your lies and your car salesman talk, beat it clown!!!

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