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  • #31
    Yeah...I doubt that somehow.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Split Decision View Post
      thats what i thought

      u say the bolded yet u have no heavyweight ppvs yet plenty of smaller weight ppvs

      why is that ?
      Maybe take a look at the HW scene. You can also reread my second message since you quoted it and it has you’re answer.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
        SHO & PBC will be doing back flips if this fight does over 500k buys. Hard to imagine it doing anywhere near a million. I'd say 250k is more likely than a million.
        250k-300k has been my number all along. I think wilder hs an outside chance to make 10 mil possibly if it sells more but no way is he making close to the 100 million he claimed. The card will have an expensive undercard to pay for too

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        • #34
          Originally posted by NearHypnos View Post
          GGG was seen by more people fighting Vanes than people watched Wilder in his biggest fight vs Ortiz.

          Hbo/Showtime views dont translate to buys.


          And unless Canelo is fighting them...dont expect crazy numbers.
          Perhaps, but you are conveniently leaving out the fact that HBO has a superior amount of subscribers to showtime, so that particular point is irrelevant.

          And it DOES translate in the heavyweight division, it always has, check the stats.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Clubber Pac View Post
            Perhaps, but you are conveniently leaving out the fact that HBO has a superior amount of subscribers to showtime, so that particular point is irrelevant.

            And it DOES translate in the heavyweight division, it always has, check the stats.
            Canelo is mkkng 40-50 mil a fight doing way more ppvs than this will do plus Wilder-Fury is a 50/50 split. Wilder will be lucky to see 10 mil

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Clubber Pac View Post
              Perhaps, but you are conveniently leaving out the fact that HBO has a superior amount of subscribers to showtime, so that particular point is irrelevant.

              And it DOES translate in the heavyweight division, it always has, check the stats.
              People who like boxing and have jobs and dont stream have showtime. I literallly have showtime exclusively for boxing. If Wilder were that famous he’d be having people pay for showtime just for him. It’s not irrelevant. It’s facts.

              Which stats? The ones from the 90s? Or Wilder’s/Fury’s?

              Fury and Klitchko did even less on HBO if you want to go that route.

              Hw boxing has been largely dead in the US. For a looong time now. Close to two generations worth of fighters now. But go ahead and compare HWs like Evander and Tyson to Wilder in terms of people who watch them

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Clubber Pac View Post
                Deontay Wilder told TMZ that he could make as much as $100 million in December when he fights Fury.

                On the surface, it seems like he is full of sh/t, but lets review the basic projections.

                At this rate, the fight is going to sell, but for the basis of the projected principle, we will first focus on domestic PPV buys, PPV Buys in the UK generate substantially less money because the networks and carriers charge almost 60% less than they do in the states.

                Wilder/Fury is on pace for 600,000 buys roughly, and that number could sky rocket during the final promotion push for the fight, its the biggest HW fight America has seen since Tyson/Lewis, and it's in Los Angeles, which has not seen a fight like this since Oscar/Shane 1, that is going to drive the live gate with the star power

                Then you have the sponsors, who are going to throw down for a high profile HW title fight at the staples center.

                If Showtime charges fight fans $70 bucks, and the fight cracks a 700,000 buys, and the world wide distribution rights hit about $40 million the fight itself could generate $100 million easily.

                If you factor in the UK money, which is most likely in Fury's favor, the fee the satellite companies take, Wilder is looking at a $40 million dollar payday at a minimum, which is scores beyond what Hearn and AJ were offering.

                If the fight cracks a million buys, which is possible, Wilder is looking at $60 million dollar payday conservatively.

                If he wins, and the fight defies expectations commercially, it will be impossible to argue that AJ should get a commanding share of the revenue, esp if Wilder made more money than AJ in his last fight.
                Struggling with your calcs.

                Million buys at $60 -> $60m

                Gate is $1m

                Sponsership - $5m-10m

                Best case scenario total gross of $71m.

                Remove the commissions etc left with $50m.

                Fury probably demands $20m

                Wilder left with $30m

                That’s best case scenerio.

                Good figures nonetheless

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Clubber Pac View Post
                  Deontay Wilder told TMZ that he could make as much as $100 million in December when he fights Fury.

                  On the surface, it seems like he is full of sh/t, but lets review the basic projections.

                  At this rate, the fight is going to sell, but for the basis of the projected principle, we will first focus on domestic PPV buys, PPV Buys in the UK generate substantially less money because the networks and carriers charge almost 60% less than they do in the states.

                  Wilder/Fury is on pace for 600,000 buys roughly, and that number could sky rocket during the final promotion push for the fight, its the biggest HW fight America has seen since Tyson/Lewis, and it's in Los Angeles, which has not seen a fight like this since Oscar/Shane 1, that is going to drive the live gate with the star power

                  Then you have the sponsors, who are going to throw down for a high profile HW title fight at the staples center.

                  If Showtime charges fight fans $70 bucks, and the fight cracks a 700,000 buys, and the world wide distribution rights hit about $40 million the fight itself could generate $100 million easily.

                  If you factor in the UK money, which is most likely in Fury's favor, the fee the satellite companies take, Wilder is looking at a $40 million dollar payday at a minimum, which is scores beyond what Hearn and AJ were offering.

                  If the fight cracks a million buys, which is possible, Wilder is looking at $60 million dollar payday conservatively.

                  If he wins, and the fight defies expectations commercially, it will be impossible to argue that AJ should get a commanding share of the revenue, esp if Wilder made more money than AJ in his last fight.
                  I really can't be bothered to tell you where your numbers are wrong because you have made so many mistakes.

                  In reality - I think both fighters make $10-15 million and they will do well to get that.

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                  • #39
                    Wilder is full of it. Even if the fight does make 100 million Wilder won't get anywhere near 40 million of that. Fury gets some of that. Promoters and networks and others all get some of that. If Wilder wins AJ will still be the A side and in the driver's seat able to make Wilder take it or leave it offers. If Wilder demands too much AJ will just fight somebody else again and still make a fortune.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by boliodogs View Post
                      Wilder is full of it. Even if the fight does make 100 million Wilder won't get anywhere near 40 million of that. Fury gets some of that. Promoters and networks and others all get some of that. If Wilder wins AJ will still be the A side and in the driver's seat able to make Wilder take it or leave it offers. If Wilder demands too much AJ will just fight somebody else again and still make a fortune.
                      Networks, yes. Promoters no. They get a "flat fee." Excess revenue that would typically go to them go to the fighter. And that's the money Wilder is referring to but $100 milly is a lil ridiculous.

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